Letters to the Editor
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helpeveryone: Legitimate poster, or Clinton operative who just signed up ten minutes ago?
I am so glad that Salon has that "read X's other letters" link at the bottom of every comment. It makes it so much easier to see which side has been flooding the boards with trolls. Seems a bit desperate, if you ask me.
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Helpeveryone.
Nice first post. You really got the concern troll vibe down.
How goes the dKos strike, by the way?
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Incendiary Idiots
Who's this Infidel idiot? Some kind holy warrior on behalf of McCain and the Clintons?
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This just in...
Over at RushLimbaugh Polls, 100% of knuckle-draggers say that there's no way they'd trust ANY Democrat. Also, 95% of troglodytic dittoheads say they'd vote for a tree stump before voting for either "Hussein Obama" or "the bitch." The other 5% still seem to believe they can vote for Ronald Reagan, despite his being dead for many years.
Important news, huh?
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drop the pro-Clinton stance
and get more objective by reviewing all the polls and admitting that the Wright interlude isn't going to hurt Obama's chances in the long run, it's just a hurdle, a test, that he's sooo over!
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what do people think
a (hypothetical) President Obama Brainwashed by an Evil Reverend Wright would do? Round up all the white people? Force white women to marry brown-skinned men? Institute a Slavery Reparations Tax, paid by all white Americans? Make Ebonics the Official Language of the US?
What, exactly, are people afraid of?
A poll that clarifies that would be far more telling.
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@manos
Name calling does not work. Infidel has some questions. Why don't you answer them?
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Polls and stocks--don't watch them day by day
Never bother with polls a couple of days after an event or a controversy. Same way you don't sell or buy stocks based on day-by-day fluctuations.
Both are sure loser strategies, for the same reasons--random fluctuations based on short-term events don't tell you squat about long-term trends in prices or electoral support.
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Juliebird is right
President Obama would do all that that she mentions, and force everyone to be Muslim...and not just that..he would make us listen to Flavor Flav....
and that I cannot take...this is where we draw the line
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Juliebird
Looks like all the candidates are brainwashed by someone. Who shall we choose?
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@Tommydsz
You made me snort diet coke.
Not nice.
(Me, I draw the line at MC Hammer pants. But everyone has a different hill to die on ...)
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Shying at gnats and making mountains out of molehills...
Oh, please! Talk about "shying at a gnat" when it comes to an issue. Surely Democrats and Independents (and even Republicans) can't be so FOX-bit as to think that the pastor story matters in any measure of importance or to blame Obama for statements of others who are beyond his control. For goodness sakes! There's a war in Iraq going on, everyone. There are people in need of jobs. There are children who are homeless and hungry. This whole pastor story is mole-hill ridiculous, hyped by the grumpy and desperate FOX crowd who need something to grumble about, in order to avoid real issues, such the $3.50 per gallon gas, the home foreclosures, the 5-year trillion-dollar war, etc. And it smacks of McCarthyism and guilt by association. I can't think of one time in all my church-going that I ever shook my finger at the minister over a sermon or statement that I disagreed with. The idea would have seemed disrespectful, to me. And, besides that, I don't go to church because of the minister. There is so much more to it, to the whole matter of spirituality and church attendance, and anyone who goes to a church knows that. I have Catholic and Mormon friends who thoroughly believe in the equality of the men and women, and yet they don't walk out of their churches as a protest over institutional discimination concerning women in church leadership roles. Are they supposed to? Maybe they can work better from the inside. I have Jehovah's Witnesses friends who, by their religious beliefs, don't say the Pledge of Allegiance or salute the flag. Am I supposed to disavow of their friendship? This is America, for goodness sakes. There are all kinds of people and beliefs and statements. I can keep my friends and have my own opinions without throwing people under a bus. I think and hope that Obama can do it, too. I have listened to Obama. I thought Obama's speech about race was excellent. If anyone can help to bridge and solve the problems of America, with its multi-racial and other diverse characteristics, it seems to me Obama, with his diverse heritage, experiences, family and friends, can.
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Finally got around to...
Looking at Wright's video, the "God Damn America" one. Turns out he was being very specific in his condemnation. God Damn American for killing innocent people -- God Damn American for treating its citizens as less than human. When and where that does occur -- and it does, regrettably -- is there any argument with damning that behavior? I mean, what would Jesus do about the death of innocent people or the gross mistreatment of others? "Uh, Dad? Listen, you gotta do something about this..."
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I believe Obamaniacs believe it won't
But if it does they'll be the first ones to scream "racism". In other words everyone else is a bigot and a monster but they, and they alone are noble, pure and good.
Which if you look at it is part of Wright's narrative in the first place. He's the kind of guy who tells you everyone is a racist, even if they don't know it, especially if they say they're not.
But in the big scheme of things, no it probably won't hurt him. The election will be a tie, like all the other recent ones and it will decided in some bizarre way that no one is happy about. I would say 50/50 this Presidential election will wind up in the Supreme Court too and we all know how that goes.
I think the real danger is that the Obamaniacs themselves run the risk of turning this whole election into a referendum on race and that may blow in their faces.
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Will Rev Wright Hurt Obama's Chances
The good Reverand does carry some baggage, but Sen Obama does not necessarity swallow everything that he says, hook, line and sinker. And there are white preachers who blame us for floods, tornadoes and other disasters; we're just not following them right now.
Sen Obama's belief that we can reason our way out of this tangle of resentments and false beliefs toward a more cooperative way to live is inspiring.
When he spoke to a crowd today in Charlston, his audience included people of many colors & nationalities, of every apparent legal voting age, and of differing economic status. In other words, a little bit of all of us. I do not believe that his campaign will be hurt in the long run. It will take a while for everyone to think about what he's said, then we'll join him for the journey ahead.