Letters to the Editor
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@Notorious WES
Notorious WES: "Obama's Only Chance ... Is for Hillary to get him ready."
Isn't it sexist of you to call Hillary a fluffer?
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Good lord, why am I even bothering to get into the mud with WES...?
I still think that the republicans may end up launching a more hysterical, coordinated attack on Obama than they would against Hillary.
And I still think that there's a large percentage of Republican insiders who are so sick of John McCain being such a pain the ass for his own party that they'd like nothing more than to see him end his career with a massive, humiliating defeat in November. These are the same folks who had no problem aiding and abetting the "John McCain is a crazy POW who has an illegitimate black baby" whispering campaign.
Plus, with the popular opinion of the Republican party at near-historic lows, I think most Republicans are already resigned to sitting this one out for the next 2-4 years and accepting that the Democrats are going to capture the White House and Congress. And it's not a bad plan. With the economy in the toilet, the housing crisis getting even worse, and the Middle East... well, continuing to be the Middle East, the Repubs will be able to run in the 2010 mid-terms and 2112 presidential and ask, "are you better off now than you were 2 or 4 years ago?" Because the answer is almost certain to be "no."
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@ jebldmm
How does this differ from Obama's people saying that if Clinton does not win "X", then she will not be able to win the primary?
X = a majority of delegates
Hillary is clearly losing the race for delegates, and losing it badly. It started around Feburary 5th, and it has consistently gotten worse for her. The trend began when Obama was still trailing her, and its direction has not changed, merely sped up and slowed down at certain points.
If things keep going the way that they've been going, Hillary will have to convince 70% of the undeclared superdelegates to go her way at the convention.
Since Iowa, 65 superdelegates have declared their allegiance
Obama has picked up 53 of their endorsements. Hillary has picked up 12.
12 is 18% of 65.
18% is less than 70%.
These are called "facts." They can be extrapolated to show a pattern, which can be used to predict future events with more accuracy than just pulling random statements out of your ass, which is what Mark Penn and the Clinton campaign have been reduced to.
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@WES The long and the short of it
Hutman
You should thank me for doing short posts.....That prevents you from having to go through your normal ritual of pathologically quoting and responding to 25 points. --WES
Few of us are artistes of your calibier. I envy your brevity. Perhaps you are indeed the soul of wit.
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Things that go bump in the night on Talk Radio
I predict that he won't be elected, because the Rethuglican machine will use, to their advantage, a long list of "scary" things to frighten the masses into submission -- and it will be an easy task, given the available fodder. Not saying I agree with it, but's that's the reality.
You guys really need to listen to Talk Radio if you think there's going to be much difference between Hillary and Obama slimage. You can start here at www.969FMTalk.com 3-7pm EST.
The only difference is that the Hillary Hatred has surged and grown for over a decade and they're having to re-tool for Obama.
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@hutman
hahaha
Based on previous observations, experience and reason, I made a "prediction" which is not the same as "knowing" the outcome.
I based my prediction on the tactics that will undoubtedly be used against him.
If those tactics aren't used, he might win.
Where's your hand in this?
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And for the record...
I don't feel as if Penn is slandering the Obama campaign with that statement, or playing dirty politics, or hitting below the belt, and as an Obama supporter, I'm not crying victim. I just find it simultaneously funny and sad how far the Clinton campaign has to go to convince itself and its supporters that they still have a shot at this thing.
Penn's declaration that Obama can't win the general isn't going to hurt Obama one bit. If anything, it's going to help Obama by underscoring just how out of touch with reality Hillary and her people are. I mean, if one campaign makes public declarations that are obviously, patently false, how can you believe anything that comes out of their mouth? For cryin' out loud, his fellow campaign advisers had to contradict him on a conference call. No wonder everyone else in the campaign hates this guy. No discipline whatsoever.
At this point, being an Obama supporter is like rooting for a dominant boxer in the 10th round. As long as he doesn't get himself knocked out by being careless, he's easily going to win the judges' decision. Having the ability to be cautiously optimistic about your fighter's chances allows one to relax a bit and have a good laugh at his opponent's missteps.
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I agree with BryanS
...and wish to expand. The tactic seems to be to take away Obama's biggest strength(s) by any means they can.
He gives a good speech? Then turn that into a negative by saying words don't matter
He has organization and a ground game? Well, caucuses and red states don't really matter anyway.
He leads McCain by a greater margin in actual swing states? Well, how can he win a general election if a majority of registered Democrats in a state where he's very competitive against McCain prefer a different candidate head to head?
He's a war hero? Get a couple of guys from his old unit to say he didn't deserve the medals, then when they start asking about my draft dodging, it'll look like a wash...oh, sorry, that was last time. I think I accidentally cut and pasted that one.
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Backlash from angles Hillary might not have expected
This competition has taken so many twists and turns I can't believe it's still not over yet. But I offer this not with judgement, but as an angle none of us expected a few months ago.
According to relatives, in their twenties, who are Republicans/Independents from the Wisconsin, Hillary is "racist". From Ferraro's comments and her weak denial of them, and her general condescension toward Obama through this campaign.
What about this as a "how low Democrats are able to go" tactic used against the party--not just Hillary--in November. (I'm not sure that the argument will be "hillary is racist" but something more like opportunism but "racist" is what they told me.)
For Clinton supporters, how is Hillary going to win the nomination with her old baggage and possibly new baggage, and the fact that if she wins the nomination it will always be disputed for the way she won it using Michigan and Florida delegates and/or superdelegates (the only way she will win it at this point)...and the Democrats she has turned off. And the Republicans who are calling her an opportunist and possible racist who would even turn on a nice Muslim guy like Barack Obama.
Funny how things are going for Democrats this year. And by funny I mean not funny. At all.