Letters to the Editor
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Nohio
Looks like Clinton will be winning this one. Finally, a state that matters!! Must be the momentum Penn and Wolfson were talking about. Take a shot of Kool-Aid, Clintonites! You earned it!
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Question
How is Texas already reporting over 250,000 votes on CNN, and why are 60% of them for Obama? I thought they don't report for hours.
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Holy $#!+ .... CNN is showing Obama trouncing Clinton in Texas
CNN's website shows Obama leading with 60% of the vote.
Now THAT is a surprise.
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Good question
Maybe the polls in the eastern half of Texas already closed? Maybe the 60% is completely misleading. I will hold back on assuming anything.
The eastern half of Texas is the half with the highest concentration of blacks, and it can be expected to vote similarly to Louisiana.
The western half of Texas is the more deserty, conservative half (well, all of Texas is pretty conservative), with more Latinos. So it very well could swing the percentage back toward Clinton, or at least toward the middle.
We'll see in a couple hours...
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Hillary gets Ohio....hard to call it any other way
CNN's website keeps adjusting its results. Maybe they should just wait until the polls close.
Anyway, they're showing Clinton winning by a wider margin in Ohio, and they lowered the margin of Obama's win in Texas.
This is too suspenseful.
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Yeah, It's The Eastern Half
And he's down to 55%. I still think they shouldn't disclose results until the whole state's done voting. A West Texan could see that number and get the wrong idea. I thought this was what the networks agreed on after the 2000 Florida debacle.
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oui!
Eastern part of Texas is closed, but they have millions of voters, and the other part of Tejas does not close until later, so no calls yet.
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Texas time zones
I just realized the only part of Texas in the Mountain time zone is El Paso. So the results should be fairly indicative of Obama's win (currently 58%) in Texas.
If these early results are more or less correct, then Obama wins Texas and Vermont, loses Ohio, and I'm not sure what the deal is in R.I.
Given that Obama also seems to be convincing more superdelegates to vote for him, I think he should be able to clinch the nomination.
But who knows.
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Actually
You can see here exactly which counties are reporting, xranadu.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/county/#TXDEMMAPprimary
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Asher
Thanks. I am glad the results aren't based on who gets a majority of counties.
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Right, But
I think it's safe to say most of these little counties that haven't reported yet will go for Hillary, which could make up the deficit. Of course, a tie or even a razor-thin Hillary win will amount to a delegate win for Obama, due to the weird formula Texas uses.
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Grimace
I hate those pictures of McCain attempting to smile. It looks wrong. There aren't enough airbrushes in the world to make that smile right.
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Don't worry about that hypo...
Don't worry, man. She won't win or tie; I guarantee it.
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8 in 10 Ohions voted for Hillary because of race?
I think I heard that on MSNBC from their exit polling. I hope I am wrong. I would hate to think that racism was a factor in determining who to vote for in Ohio. Somebody, please let me know that I misheard.
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some odd things happening--maybe okay, maybe not?
How does it happen that the Obama campaign has entered a lawsuit to re-open for more time, some of the precincts in metro Cleveland and Columbus?? A judge has said, sure, let your people take more time. Go right ahead. They say the weather was bad so voters need more than the 14 hours they've had.
It's okay to change the rules if the change favors you, I guess.
And I agree with others re Texas--surprised that CNN is giving vote counts while big sections of the state are still voting. This is exactly what raised a firestorm when they did it with the Florida panhandle before. It can certainly have an effect on potential voters.
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Why do we have to rely on the foreign press for information?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3433485.ece
it's a rhetorical question. There is no american press.
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chhablili
You certainly "misheard." No one at MSNBC said that or anything like it. Unless you mean that 8 of 10 African-Americans voted for Obama, but that's hardly news.
Please, nerves are strained enough just now. Try not to start any new, false rumors.
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It's 2 in 10 voting based on race
"Twenty percent of respondents said race was important to their decision; Clinton won big among that group as well, 57-43 again.
Seventy-nine percent said race was not important; they split between Clinton and Obama, 50-50."
Interesting that for all the howls about sexism there doesn't seem to be a gender bias in the voting, but there appears to be a fairly significant racial bias.
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doc5467
I asked for verification. Would I have done that if I wanted to start a rumor?
You need to get over your hatred of me.
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Has Huckabee
Gone home to the Cayman Islands yet to count his money??
Just asking...
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You Can't Trust What Voters Tell You About Race Anyway
A lot of black voters who choose Obama because he's black, or white voters who choose Hillary because she's white, aren't going to come out and tell the pollster so. It may even be subconscious.
In other news, CNN's released their Texas exit polls, and they appear to indicate a split or even a slight edge for Hillary. Obama took men by six, but Hillary took women by 7, and women outnumbered men 4:3.
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the "kid vote"
in the CNN Texas exit polls, it shows that the smalled age group to vote in the Democratic primary was the 18-29 yearolds. That's disppointing to any of us; I know that group favors Obama heavily, but that's less important than the hope young voters would, this year, really come out and vote for us in big numbers. Maybe overall, it's nothing to worry about, though.
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Asher Steinberg
That Texas county map is funny -- over in the lower left area, there's a county called Glasscock that only has 2 voters. One vote went to Clinton, one to Obama. For some reason, the county is colored light blue, as if Hillary won it. I guess not all votes are equal in Glasscock!
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Voting patterns -- urban versus rural
Both in Ohio and Texas, the big city areas are going to Obama, while the rural areas are going to Clinton.
Is this due to education levels, or is it due to concentrations of minorities? I guess it will all be sorted out later.
Right now it looks like Clinton is winning big in Ohio, but most of the major city areas have not reported. So it's way too early to tell anything.
Rhode Island also appears to be going to Clinton. That one is probably hers, if the surrounding states (such as New York) are any indication.