Letters to the Editor
-
Time's Up
The time has come for Hillary Clinton to show that she cares about anything other than Hillary Clinton. The time has come for Hillary Clinton to swallow her pride and step aside for the good of her party and her country.
Her campaign is growing more and more desperate and more and more vicious as the democrats of America make clear that she is not our first choice. Her attack ads against a fellow democrat are as bad as any that the republicans run aganst democrats. The last week has shown that there is no depth she won't sink to in order to get the prize that she, for some reason, believes should be hers by right.
She is willing to drive the Democratic Party into a brokered convention and, thus, an almost certain loss in November no matter who comes out on top rather than admit that the tide has turned. The scorched earth politics of Hillary Clinton are bad for America and worse for the Democratic Party. This is our moment. This is our chance to restore America. We cannot do that through lies, mischaracterizations and racism. The Bush administration has given us 8 years of that. We don't need 4 more.
Al Gore and John Kerry both ran positive, message-centered campaigns. They were both brought down by the kinds of lies that Hillary is using against Obama. While their positive campaigns were a shining example of what makes America great, they were unable to keep the some of the mud being flung from sticking. And they both "lost".
Obama is different. I have great respect for Gore and Kerry. I voted for both. They are both highly intelligent, but lacking in political charisma. (I am sure both are highly charismatic in person, but presidential elections require a different kind of charisma). Obama is different.
Obama has the intellect, but he also has the one thing that the last two Democratic nominees lacked- political charisma. He doesn't JUST have the right plans for America, he moves people. That is a powerful weapon against the hatemongering and fearmongering that have marked the Atwater/Rove era of Republican campaigns. He has also proven that he learned a lesson from Kerry's swiftboating. He has responded quickly and efficiently to every Clinton slander.
He has proven that he can stand up to the Clinton sludge pump, which proves that he is more than ready to handle anything McCain can throw at him. He has proven that he is ready for the next step. Now, it is time for Hillary to to take that next step, stepping aside for the good of the party and the nation. The only question left is whether her ego will allow it to happen or if she will tear the Democratic Party apart rather than admit defeat, thus costing the party its chance to retake the White House and restore American dignity.
-
The minute I heard Hillary had lost my mother...
... a 50-year-old white feminist from outside Sheboygan, I knew she wasn't getting far in Wisconsin.
-
Yes!
Thanks Wisconsin!
-
anon
Touche!
Although, as a northern californian (& hometown MD Girl - so I got that goin for me as well), I have to say that the CA vote split pretty well along the typical N and S cal lines ... with the South being much more conservative (hence going for Hillary) & NCal going for Obama, for the most part
-
Calm down Obama fans. We're not at the bottom of the 9th yet...can you keep SCORE?
At stake tonight in Wisconsin were 74 pledged delegates for Democrats. Hawaii will allocate 20 delegates in its caucus. Obama currently has 1,112 pledged delegates and another 164 superdelegates for a total of 1,276, according to the Associated Press. Clinton has 979 pledged delegates and 241 superdelegates, a total of 1,220.
A 56 delegate difference is hardly a rout.
Get real Obama fans.
Let the people speak.
-
@ anonymous 07:58 PM
"Are Midwesterners simply less racist than New Yorkers and Californians?
No, its cause we're too cynical to feel inspired.
On the bright side it looks like there is some serious voting irregularities with the NY vote and Obama may come out ahead or at least do a lot better.
-
An Anti-War vote
I had dinner with a group of staunchly feminist Wisconsin women (five white, one Asian) a few days ago. The conversation would start with someone saying "I want to vote for a woman so bad," some blah-blah-blah, but always looping back to Clinton's vote on the war. Then uncomfortable silence. Repeat.
This is the land of Bush approval ratings in the teen percentages and an early and consistent anti-war stance. Feingold.
Clinton simply couldn't square her feminism with her stupid cocky war-mongering.
-
Hillary didn't "vote for war"
She thought it was prudent to arm the sheriff. She didn't give him a go-ahead to shoot at will.
Her vote is what her NY constituents expected of her. If an equivalent event like 9/11 had happened at The Sears Tower, Obama (if he had been in the Senate at the time), would have voted the same way.
Gawdalmighty. I wish all of you would get off that "vote for war" meme.
But, it just shows you're sheep. Follow the lead of the media echo chamber.
-
Arm the Sheriff?
But the "sheriff" was George W. Bush, anonymous. And she knew that when she voted to give him the gun.
Was she so stupid that she didn't realize he'd abuse it? Because it was obvious to me and a whole lot of other people.
Or maybe she just decided that if she didn't make that vote, the Republicans would call her "weak on terrorism" in the 2008 Presidential elections. In which case, she cynically traded American lives, treasure, and honor - not to mention the lives of untold numbers of Iraqis - for her own political gain. And how do you square that with her oath of office as a Senator?
-
Tom Payne, Firefly, KCM
"Billcrap"
Billcrap. Get it? Cuz his screen name is Billcap. So I made funny. I turned "cap" into "crap"? Isn't I just the most cleverest one on the board? I made a poopie joke! Did you all see? Did you? Did you?
I know Obama supporters can be young, but really, 12? That seems young even for Obama people. Luckily, I know you aren't representative of most Obama supporters. Thank god for the party.
"In 1776, she would have been a British sympathizer"
Yes, of course. Hillary is so evil she would have even prevented the very creation of our country!!!!! Why, Obama would have written the Declaration, and the Constitution, and defeated the Redcoats, and sent himself to France to negotiate for allies and and and
"victory of a candidate who has brought a message of hope and dignity, and the human value and ability to contribute of every citizen to the political process?"
umm, first of all, who exactly is Hillary trying to get not to contribute? And secondly, you're more than welcome to dance because Obama won. I'll happily pull the lever for him should he get the nomination. In fact, I've already pulled one lever for him in NY. I never said you couldn't celebrate the positive, but that has nothing to do with my post, which dealt with calls for Hillary to drop out, accusations that she ran out of pure ambition (implying of course that Obama has none), and otherwise displayed an utter lack of the unity they're supposedly voting for, and implications that somehow she's been completely rejected by the party, when in fact half the party roughly has said they'd prefer her over Obama.
"And I was frightened of what might happen to me under Ms. Clinton."
Then yes, you truly are young. I don't know what else to say to that.
""The American people are not the problem. The American people are the answer." ~Barack Obama
"Young people today think 'work' is a four-letter word." ~Hillary Clinton
Gee, who do I think will value my contributions to this society and give a damn what happens to me?"
And you display your youth here as well. I mean, seriously. Pick out a single line of a woman in her 50's (I'm guessing) and argue it represents her thinking on how she values youth? When she's raised a daughter? And then contrast that with a single line of inspiration and argue that's the real contrast? Do you honestly think Obama has never said a bad word, ever, ever in his whole life about somebody? Give me a break. I respect that you like Obama. I like Obama. But this is impossible to take seriously. I apologize if that sounds harsh, but I don't know how else to characterize that sort of argument.
"Her attack ads against a fellow democrat are as bad as any that the republicans run aganst democrats. The last week has shown that there is no depth she won't sink to in order to get the prize that she, for some reason, believes should be hers by right."
more of this same idiocy
"The scorched earth politics"
and more
"We cannot do that through lies, mischaracterizations and racism"
except of course what you just wrote. And the most egregious and most personal attack in this race dealing with race was an attack on Hillary not by Hillary (the whole MLK fiasco)
KCM
It is about the popular vote in the sense that Obama supporters (many of them) are acting as if the Democratic party has somehow wholeheartedly rejected Hillary Clinton. Or that Obama has shown that he is wildly more popular than she is, or more wildly desired when the math (which yes, can be cruel) shows that it's pretty much a wash (delegates or no). Not to mention the irony of a group of people supposedly voting for "unity" who demonize a woman and her supporters by implication when she's rallied half the party to her. Yeah--that's unifying. You may not be in that group, but I'm not talking to you in my post in that case.