Letters to the Editor
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watch the doners
I have a feeling the Clintons may have to pour some more of their own cash in this before its over.
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It is winning at All costs
Hillary rather win at all costs than see the Democratic party united around a dynamic candidate. It is Obama not Hillary who is bringing back Democrat voters, and brining in new voters. If Hillary wins the most pledged delegates from the popular vote then and only then does she deserve to get the Super delegates and vice versa. I already know many long-time Democrats who are threatening to sit out if Hillary is the candidate. If she pulls the super delegates stunt or try to bring the MI & FL delegates to the convention. You will see a large defection from the party. Only the those who love divisiveness will be left.
I know Republican who will vote for Obama over McCain in November, but will not cast a vote for Hillary.
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Not everyone buys the Obama hype
''I know Republican who will vote for Obama over McCain in November, but will not cast a vote for Hillary.''
This sort of apocryphal anecdote means nothing.
I know of at least one independent voter who would vote for McCain over Obama in November, but would prefer to vote for Hillary.
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Maybe I'm missing something here
If this goes to the convention (which, I understand, the Democratic leadership, but not necessarily, the candidates, would like to avoid), and the Superdelegates aren't enough to decide it (and, everyone here seems to think the Superdelegates are a horrible thing - unless, of course, this is the week they are supporting your candidate of choice), then how, exactly, is it going to be decided??? I realize that some people on either side think one of the candidates should just go out and withdraw now. However, I think that's not happening - with either candidate. And, we all know what happens when either MI or FL are mentioned.
One side or the other will have to somehow persuade the pledged delegates to switch sides. That's what the rounds of balloting would be for. Or does nobody understand that??? Or, is it only OK if they are pursuaded to support the side you want?
Look, I'm an independent and I wanted Edwards. I'm pulling the lever or pushing the button or whatever the hell it is for whichever of these guys makes it through to November because I'm sure as hell not voting for McCain. But really, if this isn't decided any other way before the convention, and the Superdelegates can't decide it, the pledged delegates will have to do it. And that means Obama, as well as Clinton would have to do this. Would it be OK then???? Would reality set it??? Jesus frigging Christ.
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One more point
The Clinton's complaining about the press reminds me of Richard Nixon.
Until Super Tuesday, we hardly saw anything in the newspapers or heard much on TV about Obama. It was all about Hillary.
It was not until he fooled all of you who thought Hillary was a shoe in, did the media even start covering the Omama campaign. Hillary recevied no negative news until she made the fatal mistake of putting Bill and his administration on stage in NH, and hen Bill inserted race into the campaign.
Truth is Obama is a more dynamic speaker and has a more efficiently managed campaign. Hillary should just try to be herself instead of attempting to imitate Obama.
Oh but maybe she is being herself..win at all costs.
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bernbart
Nothing in the press about Obama before Super Tuesday?
You've got to be kidding me...
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"Clinton really needs to pick a strategy, direction and stick with it"
I think she needed to do that a while back. She was all about experience, then she tried to steal Obama's change theme, then she latched onto John Edwards populist theme (by the way, her "Blueprint" for economic success? Obama released his "Blueprint" for economic success awhile back...hmm exactly the same title).
This won't go to the convention, mark my words. If it does, the Domcrats are fucked no matter who ends up the nominee. The Clintons will turn it into a poisonous circus. The party bigshots are poised and ready to step in if she loses tonight. Once March 4th has come and gone and we're getting "Oh yeah? wait until Pennsylvania!" from Camp Clinton, Al Gore will have the pleasure of meeting with the Clintons and telling them its over. They won't listen, but the super delegates will defect enmass and the doners will disappear. The Clintons will be left to rot on the vine.
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@saintzak
I so wish you were right...however I have a sneaking suspicion that Hillary will win tonight in Wisconsin, and then all bets are off.
the superdelegate thing seems really easy to me - if you're an elected official, you have to go with the will of your people. If you're a party boss, go with your gut. Which should leave everybody involved just a little pissed off (which of course means it was fair...as someone said earlier)
going for pledged delegates? Dirty Politics my friend, dirty.
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War Room "squarely behind Obama"
Nothing like a biased headline "even if it is in quotes". The Obama campaign owes you at least a thank-you note for making sure a negative Clinton message shows up for most of the day on people's Yahoo home pages that have the Salon War Room module. I guess it is a good thing yesterday was a holiday or we might have been treated to it for 2 days.
I know, you were just using a "quote". It happens to be on a day where there might be a tight finish in a primary state. It happens to advance the Obama campaigns talking points. Of course he is "staying above the fray", "taking the high road" and "refuses to go negative". So I guess we are supposed to believe that this "Hillary will do anything to win" mantra is supposed to be , uh positive in some way?
Do you guys think Obama really needs that much help? Have you checked out MSNBC lately for ideas? The media's slanted coverage is fast becoming the headline and that is never good.
Here's an idea, journalistic neutrality.