Letters to the Editor
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@hoodoo
"Not everyone buys the Obama hype. 'I know Republican who will vote for Obama over McCain in November, but will not cast a vote for Hillary.' This sort of apocryphal anecdote means nothing. I know of at least one independent voter who would vote for McCain over Obama in November, but would prefer to vote for Hillary."
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See, the difference is that there is a lot of DATA for one assertion, and none for the other. See the difference?
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People who defend "win at all costs"...
...apparently never were taught anything by their parents.
You do realize that Watergate is an extreme example of people attempting to win at all costs? That resulted in a president's resignation (had he not resigned he surely would have been impeached).
"Win at all costs" is a destructive impulse, not a positive one. Just look at the United States in Fallujah in the fall of 2004. We told all citizens to evacuate the entire city, then rained bombs everywhere, destroying over 70% of the city's buildings and infrastructure. Citizens who hadn't left -- not insurgents, but citizens -- were shot on sight. The U.S. also violated international law by using white phosphorus as a munition, burning people alive. Sure, we "won" the Battle of Fallujah....but at what cost?
But I digress...
If you really believe that "winning at all costs" is just fine and dandy, please go to Wikipedia and look up somebody named Pyrrhus. (I think I spelled that right...) Then come back and tell me what you learned. Ready? Begin.
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Everybody calm down
Call me an optomist, but I think of myself as a run-of-the-mill liberal. We will not allow this primary to be decided by anything other than the issues -- not by slogans, superdelegates, or fear of the smear. The democrats will decide on a clear winner and it won't be because we think either Obama or Clinton are failures in some way, but because we decide that one's ideas are better for the country. Whoever wins will face an opposing party that is used to getting its way by fear, lies and smear -- but the country is over it. We've grown up and those days are passed. Our primary will not be decided by Karl Rovian analysis or tricks, and our party will win the general because we are better than any Rovian tricks the other side will throw at us. Let's calm down and simply vote with our brains. It's a new day in politics; let's stop evaluating the playing field by 2000 standards.
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@PSMarc93
Well said! I wholeheartedly concur :)
"We must go forward, not backward. Upward, not forward. And always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!"
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Win-at-all-costs strategy
Obama is really clever. He consistently charges others with what he is doing or has done--Be in debt to big corporate donors.
Try rewriting an nuclear energy bill to please your big donor Exelon--Obama did and then charged Clinton with be a co-signer. She didn't co-sign the watered down rewrite Obama produced for his big money donor.
Call Social Security in danger, as Obama did and then takes big money from Goldman Sachs a big promoter of privitizing Social Security.
Accuse the Clintons of playing the race card while you are not only playing the race card through your surrogate Jesse Jackson, Jr. (See the stories about him threatening members of the Black Caucus who support Clinton) while playing the gender card against Clinton.
And now the win-at-all cost charge:
"I don't think this Chicago Tribune article (By David Jackson and Ray Long | Tribune staff reporters 6:48 PM CDT, April 3, 2007)ever made it to the national news but it should have:
"The day after New Year's 1996, operatives for Barack Obama filed into a barren hearing room of the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners.
"There they began the tedious process of challenging hundreds of signatures on the nominating petitions of state Sen. Alice Palmer, the longtime progressive activist from the city's South Side. And they kept challenging petitions until every one of Obama's four Democratic primary rivals was forced off the ballot.
"Fresh from his work as a civil rights lawyer and head of a voter registration project that expanded access to the ballot box, Obama launched his first campaign for the Illinois Senate saying he wanted to empower disenfranchised citizens.
"But in that initial bid for political office, Obama quickly mastered the bare-knuckle arts of Chicago electoral politics. His overwhelming legal onslaught signaled his impatience to gain office, even if that meant elbowing aside an elder stateswoman like Palmer.
"A close examination of Obama's first campaign clouds the image he has cultivated throughout his political career: The man now running for president on a message of giving a voice to the voiceless first entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it."
Support him because he is a great speaker, or because he is the less liberal candidate, or because he is black, or because he is a man, or because he inspires you, but don't try to claim he is a different kind of politician or a liberal because he is neither. Don't fool yourselves and don't try to fool us.
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Democracy — only when it favors Obama — is not Democracy
I couldn't agree more regarding the will of the people and the popular vote. So where is the outcry to reinstate the Florida and Michigan delegates? Why shouldn't the votes of those citizens count? Where's the MoveOn petition?
There's no outcry because those states went to Hillary.
Michigan and Florida are being punished. (This in and of itself could give rise to another post.) But who really is being punished? The voters in those states, that's who. Two entire states have been thrown out and the votes of their residents cast aside. This is Democracy?
I can only imagine the hysteria if BO had taken those states. The Voice of the People ISN'T BEING HEARD! Instead everyone's got their knickers in a twist because the superdelegates may — may — favor HRC.
DP rules are DP rules. Let the votes cast in FLA and MI count, or leave the superdelegate issue alone.
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wow
"War Room "squarely behind Obama"
Nothing like a biased headline "even if it is in quotes". The Obama campaign owes you at least a thank-you note for making sure a negative Clinton message shows up for most of the day on people's Yahoo home pages that have the Salon War Room module. I guess it is a good thing yesterday was a holiday or we might have been treated to it for 2 days.
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they show their face alex. Do not bow down to these whining old ladies. report facts, nto gossip and opinion. This whole line of garbage today is for clinton. For clinton supporters to then say you are bias on top of that. WOW. You are bias for clinton. Otherwise this would be a non-story.
It's like clinton's people attacking matthews. Like she would still be in the hunt if not for matthews reducing her to tears. It's funny to me because I know what time it is. I feel sorry for others who are not as involved as me. they may buy these clinton propoganda like they did foxs/bush's.
Good thing patriotic americans are here to call the fox like clitnon propogandists out, huh? otherwise we repeat the cycle. Poor salon. The clinton propogandists think your bias. Even after all you've done for them. they are a lost cause. Join reality salon. Stop with the us weekly gossip and clitnon heresay. REPORT THE FACTS and THE NEWS. PlEASE. Leave the gossip to fox.