Letters to the Editor
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Did you vote for the invasion and occupation of Iraq, Hill?
Did you dodge out on the telecom immunity vote the other day? Can we take a peek @ your tax returns yet?
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This Comment Section Should Be Good
Obama supporters doing their best Limbaugh-Hannity imitations yet again.
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Here she goes..
This is her only option though and it was a pretty good presentation. She hit all the areas that she could hit him.
The problem is that I'm not sure she estimates the power of his campaign. They've already begun talking about "solutions" because they know it's their weak spot as McCain alluded to on Tuesday.
We'll see how effective this is going to be. Might be too little too late for Clinton but it's classic politics and she's doing it the best you can.
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Good to see some facts at least
Its nice to see Hillary trotting out the positives in her record that differentiate her from some of Obama's 'mistakes'... a good stategy that COULD HAVE BEEN TROTTED OUT 3 MONTHS AGO!!!!!
I am an Obama supporter, but I'll agree with some people who say that Obama's camp really does specialize in attracting complete arsewells... not that the Hillarizers are without fault...
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Takin' it to the streets
Let the battle royale begin! It is fair to criticize Obama's candidacy as a cult of personality that has no record of real progressive action. So far Obama IS all talk and no walk. Hillary, on the other hand, has the integrity of a bowl of water. Let the battle begin! I hope it toughens them both up a notch.
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Obama needs to fire back at Clinton
Nothing wrong with her criticisms, he just need to make more direct attacks on her record. Than the voters will get all the info and be able to make a rational choice.
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Politics 101
Take an opponent's strength and turn it into a negative. I find Hilary's logic on this really screwy; Obama gives a good speech, I don't give good speeches but I work for change, So because Obama gives good speeches he won't work for change. Even for a syllogism this is a particularly heinous one. Who is dumb enough to be swayed by this?
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ease up
on each other, obama suporters and clinton supporters: its possible to critique the other side without it being an ad hominem attack. we need to stop taking our cues from the msm. if this election -- with two of the most compelling candidates to run in decades -- ends up destroying the democratic party, there'll be no one to blame but ourselves.
enough of this "i support obama and would never vote for hrc" or vice versa. hillary's vote on iraq still irks me, but not as much as wanting to stay in iraq for 100 years. obama's nearly-universal health care plan may put off some, but would you rather have NO improvement in health care? mccain is not a good alternative to either obama or clinton. its time to pull our heads out of our collective asses.
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What's your definition of Swiftboating?
Isn't swiftboating turning a positive (e.g. - war hero's decorations) into a negative using untruths?
Calling Barack without substance is completely unfounded, and it undercuts his big positive, which is his oratory savvy.
Look at Obama's website: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/
He lists his core issues, and then his plan for each in detail. It doesn't make for a great speech, especially in the massive auditoriums he is packing lately.
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@Zach B...
I'm a bowl of water, and I'm completely offended by your remark...
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Change will come...but let's not go back to the future....
Change is going to come whether we like it or not...and it is the kind of change that matters.
Is change that brings all of the old players back to power...the Terry McCallif's and Mark Penns and their deep connections to the Washington sceen -- or change that begins moving the country in a new direction.
Yes, Hillary is full of plans, she always has been. She is full of solutions. She has always known what is better for us than we do for ourselves, clearly. She seems to resent the fact taht we don't see it as clearly as she does.
I am an Obama supporter and I will vote for Clinton if I have to over McCain. And one reason is the speeches. It is the inspiration. It is the sense that we can do something bigger, differently and better than before.
Hillary offers us the past. It is a past that I can live with, but it will be a past full of the same old same old. Her whole campaign is prmised on the promise that she knows how to play the game (not unlike her safe votes to empower the president to attack Iraq).
That is the flaw. The game has to change.
Obama might not be the right person for it...it may be illdefined for those unwilling to listen...but he at least is articulating the need. We can not go on in a country of 51/48% spilits. That is what Hillary has to offer. It is what Rove hoped to do for Bush (NO, not accusing Hillary of acting like Rove, accusing her of potentially governing like he tried to have Bush govern...narrow majorities that ride roughshod over oposition and doubt).
Change is coming, as she said, it would be a sad waste of energy if it was changing the last seven years into the eight years before it. At that rate, we'll be back to the middle of the Reagan administration right about the time that the last polar ice cap melts.
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Iraq Was Getting Attacked
No matter how Hillary voted.
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Keep hammering away
at the Obama lies and corruption. Slam him down!
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I only hope ...
... that when the nomination is decided, the Clinton-bashers or the Obama-bashers (we've seen plenty of both on the message boards lately) will vote for whoever the nominee turns out to be. Because anyone who thinks a McCain presidency would be preferable to either of them is a fool. I would expect to have serious policy differences with either President Clinton (like I did with the first one) or President Obama, but can anyone seriously listen to the "four more years of Bush" rhetoric coming from the Republican side and doubt that President McCain would be much, much worse?
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Please give it up, Hillary
You make me sick, quite honestly. And I've been a Democrat for decades. I can smell your desperation from here.