Letters to the Editor
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If He Wins Obama Is Dukakis
He'll give a big flowery acceptance speech at the convention, come out of there with a 15 point lead and then the republicans will chop him off at the knees. If he has Hillary as V.P. to advise him, he'll stand a chance.
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Any other letters?
Wonder if Mr. Bond sent a letter to the local dem parties in each state before the primaries complaining to them that by flouting national party rules they'd be disenfranchising their voters?
Didn't think so. Besides It may not matter at this point. If Obama has him some momentum he could kick enough ass in the rest of the states to render HRC irrelevant.
Then he could go on to destroy McCain.
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Backroom Deal = Democratic Loss in November
If the Democratic Party changes the rules mid-stream and seats these delegates for Clinton and that gives her the win they can kiss the November election good-bye.
Look at who Obama is bringing into the party. Young people, independents, disillusioned Republicans. They might be able to accept a straight up loss where Clinton wins at the polls. But if she wins with a backroom deal like this, they will abandon the Democrats in the fall and either stay home or more likely they will vote McCain. Either way Clinton goes down in the fall and the Democrats will have once again snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
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@MIKI
You haven't made an argument for allowing the delegates in your post. They were stripped by the DNC. That didn't bar voting in a state primary, it barred seating delegates at the national convention. If Michigan and Florida wanted to seat delegates at the *national* convention, they would have stuck to the DNC schedule. It's not as though the votes were thrown out, the delegates were stripped. Blame the state committees.
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Oddly enough...
Oddly enough Al Sharpton said the exact opposite last night on MSNBC;that letting Florida and Michigan be satwould be disenfranchising to everyone else who voted, because the results and the process, where entirely skewed either to one candidate (in the case of Michigan) or simply didn't allow for real campaigning, as in Florida.
I think the whole Michigan/Florida thing was a fiasco, and in hindsight, seems like a stupid idea. But everyone agreed to it, and the same goes with caucuses. Everyone knew the groundrules going in, and to whine about it now seems petulant.
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Obama and Edwards made the decision...
to take their names off the ballot in Michigan. It was a calculated decision -- their campaigns figured that "uncommitted" would win. Bad math.
Someone earlier suggested that it wasn't fair that Obama's name wasn't on the ballot. Well, blame Obama then -- he removed his name. Don't blame Hillary. She thought it was a wiser, more fair decision to leave her name on the ballot so that Michigan voters could make a clear choice.
It ain't beanbag. It's politics.
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@ MICKI
"Obama and Edwards made the decision..."
As you say, Obama and Edwards made their decisions and should stand by it.
However by the same argument, the local Dem parties of each state made their decisions knowing in advance the result would be stripped delegates. Should they stand by their decisions and not seek to have the delegates seated?
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Details on Kucinich in Michigan Primary
Kucinich tried to take his name off the ballot one day after the deadline, but Mich. Dems would not allow him. As far as I know, Hillary never made such an attempt.
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"If He Wins Obama Is Dukakis"
And if the queen had balls, she'd be the king.
You have absolutely no way of knowing this. Even if it's remotely true, to think the same couldn't happen to Sen. Clinton is either intellectually dishonest, or just plain delusional. All of these allusions to past Democratic candidates are really getting tired, i.e. Obama is Humphrey, Hillary is McCarthy (not Joe), someone is Dukakis.
Get some new material.
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Alabama
"Disgraceful, but revealing. Bond isn't the only erstwhile Civil Rights leader to accrue power by delivering "the black vote" for white candidates."
I am an Obama supporter but what is actually disgraceful is your classless cries of Uncle Tom at the head of the NAACP. Bonds is regularly attacked from the right as a leftist dogmatist, and now from the left... crabs in a bucket indeed!
It is not his job to deliver votes to a candidate and I've not met one person who has catagorically voted because "Jules Bonds says so"... the idea is laughable. Perhaps he thinks Clinton has a better approach to universal health care, which would behoove people of all races especially under-covered minorities, or MAYBE he just thinks a resolution to the unfair and undemocratic dismissal of the two delegation is wrong... and it is.
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@MIKI
Remember, the parties are, by and large, private organizations. The DNC could, if it chose, decide that the Idaho delegation, on its own, will choose the Dem nominee for president, and that the party won't even hold primaries or caucuses in any state. The DNC set the rules. The MI and FL Dem state party leadership chose to break them, knowing the consequences. They should live with their decision. FL was clearly trying to play a power game, betting that, given the importance of FL for the general election, the DNC would back down. They may yet be proved right.
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Once Again, the NAACP Comes Down on the Wrong Side
Michael Vick should also be left alone. I can't recall a single thing the NAACP has called for in a decade that was worth the time I spent reading the press release. I wish them the best in their long trudge into irrelevancy.
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Jesus H. Christ
What a friggin mess. There is no way out of this. None. No way will any solution that is proposed be a good one. Somebody is going to be pissed.
The caucus system seems like a good idea, but Hillary cries: "But Obama wins those!" What a child. What a spoiled child.
Personally, I think Hillary cheated in Michigan, she knew the rules. This indicates her actions as a President: She makes her own rules. Screw the Democratic party, screw democracy, screw America. She wants every thing her way.
As for the delegates, I just hope that Obama wins every state left. Then there will be no problem. Hillary is acting like the jack ass that Bill is.
