Letters to the Editor
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Obambi - Great nickname, I like that.
Hey folks this is just where it starts if he gets the nomination, be prepared for obama to be portrayed as a girly man, i mean you already have someone claiming edwards thinks he's a p-&%$$y.
Another aspect to consider with the Hillary voters if this occurs, they're older...a lot of them may go with McCain yet for some reason no one's discussing this.
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Florida and Michigan: Have Real Contests!
Look you two, you made your point. You got your early primaries even though you knew your delegates would be stripped. Now do the rest of the country a favor and hold real contests where all the candidates campaign and are on the ballot.
What does Sen Clinton fear about having real contests? If she is so sure of her support in those states, she should have a problem with the voters in those two states meeting Sen Obama.
On another note: The FMLA and ADA? Really? What an insult to the elected officals that actual did the work to create those bills and get them passed. To steal from her, It took a legislature and a president to get those thing done, not a first lady (of Arkansas).
How much of Hillary's experience is really just her experience of being married to Bill Clinton? If intimacy with a former President counts as political experience, shouldn't Monica Lewinsky be at least a Mayor of a metropolitan city? Should Gennifer Flowers be in the House of Representatives?
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Anonymous
To all the Anonymous, I hope you had time to vote for your candidate(s) because you'll spend to much time on this site with no useful or informative information. Get a job or find another hobby to entertain yourselves.
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Hold the Red Star Proudly High in Hand!
And award it to Socsandtwigs for his/her Obama post. Absolutely nailed it. Before you can change everything, you have to change something and before that you have to change the people calling the plays.
Well done!
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Limbaugh nailed it!
Who can take tomorrow,
Dip it in a dream?
Separate the sorrow and collect up all the cream,
The candyman? The Candyman can, the candyman can
The candyman can 'cause he mixes it with love
and makes the world taste good
And the world tastes good
'cause the candyman thinks it should
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@melthough and reality counts
Thanks for raising the level of the discourse here. I've been very discouraged about the vituperation on both sides.
One thing I don't think Obama supporters realize: We Clinton supporters are just as emotionally attached to our candidate as you are. I would be happy to vote for Obama should he be the candidate, but I don't like to be portrayed as either robotic or Republican lite as a result of my support of the Clinton campaign. Both candidates have their strengths and weakness but as a woman I take the piling on by the media -- and the insults of Obama supporters -- personally.
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categorical mistake
This piling-on as you describe is not because she's a woman.
It's because she's Hillary Clinton.
When you have a candidate with such a severe case of entitlement and hubris, is it so shocking that the press gets out the knives when it smells blood?
If she wants to play the game, it should be with a modicum of dignity and respect for her opponent. I hear a lot of talk about the need to play dirty in politics. But that's not what I want, and apparently it's now what a whole lot of other folks want either. If she wants to regain my respect, then enough of this talk about Florida and Michigan, enough of this talk about coercing and cajoling "automatic-delegates" if the popular vote does not go in her favor, enough of this pandering and do-what-it-takes attitude that says the ends justify the means. Enough.
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@meanstreak
Right. You were otherwise planning to vote for Clinton but she's so consummately evil that you can't be "convinced."
As I said, she has her faults and I don't agree with all her positions. Ditto with Obama. All I'm saying it's as much a question of an emotional connection with Clinton supporters as it is with Obama supporters.
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emotions
Of course it's an emotional connection. Obama is one of the few candidates who doesn't make my eyes roll, who doesn't insult my intelligence (though not entirely immune to platitudes, it's true), who has both charisma and an impressive intellect. In short, an exceptional human being. This is the sort of person I want to be leading this country, especially after eight years of the current occupant's bumbling incompetence and general thuggery. I want someone with integrity and intelligence and yes, the ability to inspire.
And there ain't nothing wrong with hope if you got the chops to back it up with deeds. And I tell ya : Obama's got the chops.
Hillary Clinton I find competent but otherwise mediocre. And I doubt she would still be in this thing if it weren't for the Clinton machine and the political benefit of having been married to a former president.
So yes, for me the decision is ultimately emotional, and it comes down to a choice between someone who I consider inspiring and exceptional versus someone who bores me.
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mean....whatever
"political benefit of having been married to a former president."
And Obama would be right where he is were he white.......Gotcha.
Hillay bores you? Hard work, diligence, and perseverence is boring. I agree.
Giving vapid, meaningless, evangelical speeches to the easily led is much, much easier.
Go for it........and have a beer with him while you're at it.
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what are you smoking
George W. Bush got where he is through family connections.
Hillary Clinton got where she is because of family connections.
Barack Obama got where he is by himself.
So your premise is that Obama has gotten this far because he's black? Wow. OK. Ok. Well then, what I'd like to know now is this : do you think Hillary is helped or hindered by having a vagina?
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No mas.....
Thank you for making my point. Everybody attains high positions due to something…family connections, bowlegged swagger, war heroism, being kinda, not quite, just enough to provide cover for otherwise kneejerk racists..... black. But, in all honesty, having any kind of satisfying or meaningful discussion on these blogs is almost impossible. It’s a one liner medium. (Generic) you make a comment stating a view that is opposite one held by (generic) me. Do (generic) I say, “hmmm, that’s interesting, let (generic) me explore that further?” Of course not. (Generic) I see it as an opening to show how clever (generic) I can be in slamming (generic) you with something profound like “Yo Dimwit, you (generic, of course) can’t be that f #*&%@ g stupid!”
Now back to earth…….
We’ll probably never know if Hillary’s gender is a plus or minus. We do know that the Clintons were specifically targeted for destruction by right wing forces going back to Bill’s Governor Days. Countless millions of dollars were poured into a noxious campaign to discredit and/or destroy a young, handsome, Progressive Southerner who had an upward moving, bright future. They were going to nip it in the bud.
Now I hope we all can agree that it’s the media that decides who makes it and who doesn’t (Ronald Reagan, George Bush….Yes. Al Gore, John Dean…No) so when the cry (pretext) goes out, “Hillary is too polarizing,” is she really? Was it she, or was it the media that proclaimed it, and we just bought into it.
Anyway, just a long winded way of saying, “nice chatting with you…….see ya.”