Letters to the Editor
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on the tip of my tongue
Mondale! Nada charisma. Sadly enough for Geraldine Ferraro.
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"Polarizing"
I think the message here is that "polarizing" is a worthless adjective.
Politics in the US is for all intents and purposes two-sided. A Democrat will be polarizing to most Republicans, and vice versa.
Sure, there's a discussion to be had regarding degrees of polarization, but let's admit that this is an inherently polar system.
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Substance?
Obama taught Constitutional Law for 11 years and has been in politics for 10. He was a civil rights attorney. He was a community organizer. He came from a family that was not well to do and is a self-made man. If there is one thing Obama has, it is substance.
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What about that Cythera woman, AKA
Most of all, the sight of him, skinny and doofy, standing on the stage debating McCain will make a lot of voters think, what in the world are the Democrats doing sending this lightweight up there? - cytheria
This particular poster decided to attack Obama regarding his looks. Wow. Some of the best presidents we've had (Lincoln, of course comes to mind) were kind of skinny and kind of doofy. So don't say some people don't have "silly" reasons to dislike Obama, either based on his looks (or possibly his biracial background, which is why he looks the way he does.)
I don't think you really care about stopping divisiveness between canidates. If you did, you'd be calling for people to on both sides to stop the name calling. You wouldn't be pointing out the nutjobs (or you would be doing it for both canidates.) I don't understand. I usually really like your posts. I've never really interacted with you, since I've liked everything else you've ever said, but when it comes to Clinton, you seem to be really crazy and irrational. (I hope that's not misogynistic.)
It's seems you have sunk your teeth into the idea that all Obama supporters are misogynistic in their language (I suppose just criticizing Clinton is somehow misogynistic) and have no real reason for supporting their canidate other than hating Hillary. Which isn't true. Or at least isn't 100% true for Obama-nation. (I'm sure there are plenty of Clinton supporters, like that cyth character, who just don't like the way Obama looks.) The fact is I don't dislike Hillary.
It's her supporters that are wearing me out. Your mantle of victimhood, the poor little me bullshit; the first woman president (just like the first black president) is going to have to deal with a legacy of misogyny beyond being called "shrill" or whatever. I'm sorry. Get used to it. Besides, MSM hated Clinton long before Obama was part of the national media. Or before this race. I don't think it's because she's a woman so much as to me, she's just not very likeable.
And I know you didn't call us kool-aid drinking worshippers of Jim Jones, but you have concede it's canard which has been used with frequency by Clinton supporters on this website. Just like some of us have called you names.
Besides, Krugman aside, Obama and Clinton are in a competition. I wish it wasn't getting so dirty, but that's the way it is. The folks who won't vote for Clinton if Obama gets it, and vice versa, well, hasn't that happened in every election? So get over it. If it scares you so much, then use reasonable arguments instead of Krugman's crack about the cult of personality.
To be honest getting all of the registered democrats to vote democrat isn't going to be enough. We're going to have to swing the independents to the canidates side. I seriously don't know which of them, Obama or Clinton, can get that vote. Being that I live in deep South, I can't really imagine many of the folks here voting for Clinton. (I was talking about her earlier with one of my older co-workers, saying that if Obama didn't win I felt as a Democrat I had to vote for Clinton, and an old guy actually spat tobacco when I said it. I'm not kidding. It was gross.)
Even my conservative newspaper ran and editorial that was nice about Obama. Everything they say about Clinton is...well...they think she's the debil. They've said nicer things about Obama than they have McCain, but it could be some Rovian Repug memo that went out to Conservative newspapers to praise Obama so they can beat him in November.
I don't know.
But I don't pretend to know the heart of the whole country. I can only be responsible for voting the way I feel, based on equal parts policy and personality and fitness for the job.
There's really not much more to say about this. I have my opinion and you have yours. I'm just really surprised and disappointed at the way your acting towards people who support Obama. Ignore the nutjobs; their are plenty of people on this website who have reasoned arguments as to why they are voting for him. I think if Obama supporters decide to sit out this election, it's going to be because of people like you.
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MansoorKhan
Also, I have never heard a Clinton supporter make the absurd claim that if Obamm is nominated they would vote for McCain. Voting for McCain has become a common declaration/threat for many Obama supporters, well at least in the company I keep, which happens to be young urban professionals.
You will reap what you sow, Obamamaniacs
We've been lifelong Democrats, but if Hillary doesn't get the nomination we're voting McCain.
Enjoy your Hillary-hating. The silent majority still exists.
--Anonymous
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Re: Obamamaniacs
@Anonymous, my feelings exactly. We're in the same frame of mind. In fact, we'll go one step further. If Hillary doesn't get nominated we will switch allegiances and ACTIVELY campaign for McCain among family, friends and neighbors. The economic and political challenges to this country, both foreign and domestic, are too great to allow us the luxury of four years of dreamy-eyed navel-gazing.
The Democrats are really their own worst enemies.
-- red_gti2000
Permalink Sunday, February 10, 2008 10:33 AM
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