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Just read through the message boards at Salon. The Obama supporters say over and over again that if he doesn't get the nomination, they will vote for anyone other than Hillary. Read that in contrast to comments by Hillary's supporters. So much for bringing us together!
Other than her husband getting caught lying for getting a blowjob, what has Hillary done that is soo sleazy? She has been a great Senator for NY, and other than playing hardball with the Press, she is getting a bum deal. Just read the drivel that spews from HuffPost, Frank Rich, Maureen Dowd and MSNBC.
If Boy Wonder gets the nomination, just wait and see what happens to him in the Press. He has gotten a free ride so far.
I can't wait to see the reaction when he has to make a pragmatic decision that will anger his supporters...their heads are going to explode. :-)
If you are looking for Salvation, you are looking in the wrong venue. Either turn inward or upward, but all this hullabaloo over a politician is ill-advised. Your messiah is going to disappoint.
Frankly I thought Krugman was talking about Clinton followers. In all the posts it appears to me it is the Clinton crowd that is angry and be mad as hell that their 'anointed" candidate is not winning by big margins. They somehow think HIllary is entitled because she is a woman and a Clinton. I made phone cals on behalf of Obama in my precinct and Hillary suppporters nearly bit my head off. I was amazed at their hostility.
This is no Obama cult. I thought very carefully before I decided who I would support and looked at all the candidates, the issues, experience, and ability to win in NOV. Obama rated A on all I'm a long time Democrat and not voting for Obamsa because he is a black man. I am voting for him because he is the best qualified candidate and we desperately need new leadership and new voters in the Democratic party. Obama voters are intelligent, positive, and not negative. We are not following blindly.
I think it has been decades since the United States has had a dynamic leader. None of the leaders we have had since the 60s has made a dent in history. The poplulation has become so cynical, from the lack of good leadership that they scoff at the 'inspirational' draw of Obama. However it took inspirational leaders to push a generation to fight for free speech, civil rights, women's rights, a protest an uncessary war. I was a part of that generation and I see the same qualities in Obama.
Obama is a uniter. I have more faith that Obama will encourage his voters to support Hillary if she wins, but I have little faith Hillary will do the same.
...is not as important as judgment.
a lot of posts above talk about clintons experience over obama's. clinton, for all her experience, supported bushs war. that is a career-ender as far as i'm concerned. and is an impeachment of experience as a factor.
Where exactly Mr. Krugman draws his information, but here on Salon I've seen Clinton supporters that were nothing short of rabid.
I've always made it clear that my differences with Her Imperial Majesty were policy based, not based on gender, familial lines or other irrelevancies. Okay, well what I perceived as her initial her attitude of entitlement didn't help matters, but fundamentally I don't trust her judgment or veracity and I don't think she's electable.
I have not hesitated to point these concerns out on any number of occasions. Nor will I refrain from doing so in the future so as not to offend Mr. Krugman's (and, by extension, any other thin-skinned supporter of Her Imperial Majesty) delicate sensibilities.
By the way, Mr. Krugman, it IS a two-way street. Where are the opinions bemoaning the antics of the other side? The idea that they are as pure as Caesar's wife would be laughable were it not simply disingenuous. Rather, such a patently ridiculous notion is simply an indicator of an innate, puzzling and irrational bias-- much like that you claim to have found in Obama's supporters...
We question lately the NYTimes as being the paper of record but it still carries a lot of weight. Koppelman points to Krugman's column critical of the Obama campaign and supporters but does not point out the Frank Rich column on 2/10 very critical of the Clintons. This kind of selectivity on Koppelman's part is in itself a bias that needs examining.
The accusations and the excuses seem to come out of that camp much more easily. However, I'm an Obama supporter so I'll concede the possibility that I'm being biased as well and don't see the level of it from that side.
However, when you say things like "cult of personality" I start to get offended. It's as if he's suggesting I don't have any capacity to think for myself. There are other little snipes like this from Clinton supporters that make me think they are so annoyed they have to put up with Obama and why this nomination isn't over yet. The Clinton campaign and her supporters all thought this would have been done on Feb 5th, now it seems like they are ticked off they have to go further.
As far as the negative press for Hillary and such, I think many of you need to realize that this type of stuff isn't going to go away if she's nominated. There are large swaths of the country that simply HATE her. I'm not making this up. My family for example, lives in rural Michigan and when a picture of Hillary Clinton pops up, they immediately turn their heads in disgust. They know very little about her and simply hate her. They view here as an opportunist that runs for the Senate to get a chance to run for president. They see her sticking with Bill only to increase her chance at getting back in the White House. They don't care what her health care plan is, they don't care what she wants to do to taxes, they don't care what she stands for in the war. It doesn't matter what's true or false, the only thing that matters is what is perceived. All they see is Clinton and they think - never in a million years.
This is what you are seeing played out all across the country and it's not going to get any better after the nomination. It's not just from the Obama supporters, it's from a larger majority that is going to be a large hill for her to climb.