Letters to the Editor
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But so what?
Personality cult or no, what difference does it make. It truly does not matter which of the two gets elected. Flip a coin and pray, yes pray they don't screw it up too much to lose the reelection in 2012.
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A Hillary Supporter thinks Obama Supporters are meaner?
Shocking!
BTW, what make my support of Sen Obama that of a cult of personality and others support of Sen Clinton not? It is just because I don't believe fours more years in the Senate trumps voting for the Iraq war?
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Krugman criticized Obama supporters
Krugman decries the "venom" in the current Democratic campaign and writes that "most of the venom I see is coming from supporters of Mr. Obama." The then offer three examples of attacks on Clinton, but attributes none of them to supporters of Obama. The first and the third -- Whitewater and David Shuster -- have nothing to do with supporters of Obama. The second -- Clinton's praise of LBJ -- he writes "was cast as some kind of outrageous denigration of Mr. King," not stating who did the casting.
He adds "that the Obama campaign seems dangerously close to becoming a cult of personality," comparing it to Bush's Operation Flight Suit. But he offers no evidence that Obama, or anyone on his campaign, is responsible for this, whereas Bush obviously was responsible for dressing up as he did. Furthermore, "seems ... close to becoming" does not even charge that it has become a cult of personality.
I don't understand how such an intelligent and level-headed person can be so irrational about Obama, when Obama may be the only hope we have of ending the war and the torture.
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Obviously
Krugman doesn't spend much time on the blogs reading the comments of Clinton supporters...
Or Ron Paul supporters...
Or Fred Thompson supporters...
Or...
People are passionate about their candidate. Some will "come in line" behind the eventual candidate, some won't. To say that Obama's people are in any way unique in establishing a "cult of personality" is silly and naieve.
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Bizarre...
I go to pro-Clinton blogs and have to wade through the anger and hate against Obama. Obama supporters have to be "right-wing," have to be stupid, etc. There is certainly a lot of anti-Hillary sentiment based on sexism, on her husband's record, and on her own record. But I also see some racism in those places too. Some pretty ugly racism.
I'm sorry, but I can't discern a moral high ground here. There isn't all that much difference between the candidates' positions, and in things like healthcare, how Congress moves is more important than which Dem is in the White House. If there are a lot more Dems in the House and Senate whatever healthcare plan emerges will be more egalitarian.
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Whiff of Desperation
Krugman certainly does sound to be desperate. His actions seem to be the exact counterpoint to his arguments about Obama supporters. Really have to wonder what HRC is promising him.....besides access.
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who cares...
...what krugman thinks.
clinton voted to authorize oour little mis-adventure in arabia. no matter how you spin it that should be a career-ending mis-judgment. to stand there today and claim she didn't know what bush was going to do is ridiculous. i knew what he was going to do. if she knows less than me she certainly isn't qualified to lead this nation. i'm sorry mr. krugman but i will not vote for hillary.
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psych 101
Projection, much?
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he's right
Krugman has been right about almost everything in the past 6 years. He, like myself was an Edwards supporter--the only candidate who consistently beat John McCain in polls--and I believe the best candidate. I voted for him symbolically still because I wasn't in a state (Illinois) where it would make a difference, and because I really couldn't choose between Obama and Clinton. I don't like dynasties and I'm sick of Bill--I don't like his health care plan which I think is destined to fail--and I think they will both make a fine president. She would work really hard--they are both smart--he would inspire foreign policy. I'm behind whichever one gets the election.
I have loved the way Obama has rallied youth, but even in Iowa people talked about how arrogant his supporters were, and yes, on the boards they are always the ones who are going to take away their toys and go home. Even Michelle Obama said she would have to consider voting for Clinton if she were the nominee. Get over it. Krugman is right and there is a cult of personality rather than team playing going on.
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Us dems can scew up anything!
You would think this was a battle for the soul of the party but this ain't 1968. Obama/Clinton is not Humphrey/McGovern. They agree on nearly all the issues! It's a good thing the republicans hate McCain or we would really be screwed. As it is, a long Dem primary will keep us in the news while McCain wanders the country trying in vain to get the base excited.
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If Bill Clinton isn't a "cult of personality", I don't know what is.
I don't know, I actually have pretty good reasons for my vehement opposition to Hillary Clinton as a Presidential candidate. My reasons are borne out of my experiences, my careful observations, my intellect (yes, I do mean that, not in a grandiose way, though), and my hopes for the future of America. All these things tell me that Hillary Clinton and another Clinton co-presidency is NOT what we need going forward, and I'm convinced that, were the Clintons to win the White House, we'd face four years of absolute gridlock and the ugliest political environment we've yet seen.
I was for John Edwards, but I'm throwing my support to Barack Obama. I think he presents us with the best option not just for the leadership of this country going forward, but for re-vitalizing the Democratic Party as well. If Hillary wins, as Mr URL said last night, the Democratic Party is dead and there will HAVE to be a viable third party emerging. I agree with him, too.
If the Clintons 1. Call in chits, promise ambassadorships, and wage their famous "We will crush you" war on the super-delegates, and, 2. Turn this already fractious race even uglier and MORE racist (e.g., the astonishing comments that "Hispanic voters don't identify with a black candidate"), I just don't see the Democratic Party meaning much of anything to any decent non-Republican anymore.
I'll take this opportunity and use this platform to send a message to Hillary Clinton: Please, from the bottom of my heart, please do the right thing, and lose gracefully, if it turns out that you're obviously beaten. Please don't do the Clinton thing of fighting dirty and making it all about YOU, YOUR "WIN", YOUR "DESTINY". Because it's about the future of your party, and the future of this country, not YOU. (or Bill.)
Thank you.