Letters to the Editor
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update from Huff blog
Probably doesn't mean anything, but what does nowadays:
Tonight's meeting between Obama and Edwards has been postponed, according to ABC's Political Radar:
While it is unclear which party ultimately pulled the plug on tonight's meeting between Obama and Edwards, sources indicate the meeting will be rescheduled in coming days.
No cause was given for the abrupt rescheduling but sources have indicated that the Obama campaign and Edwards wished that the meeting would be done in private without massive media attention.
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Edwards has the power to affect the outcome, and he's guarding it tightly
I don't blame him. He has incredible leverage right now. He could probably ask either of them to be his best friend, or give him a gazillion dollars, or promise to install him in a cushy job, or promise to enact legislation to make every orphan into a rock star, and they'd be compelled to do it.
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Close?
Obanma is creaming Clinton in every state the last two weeks. Nothng "close" about seventy percent to thirty percent. Why do you guys keep on lying about this?
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I'm confused
While Obama is certainly more centrist than Edwards (at least as Edwards framed himself in in this primary), how could the Edwards camp even be considering a Clinton endorsement? Obama is CLEARLY closer to Edwards' positions on the war and, most importantly, on the financing of his campaign. Since Edwards based his campaign largely on the fact that he wasn't imdebted to lobbyists, how could he endorse the candidate who takes lobbyist money (Clinton) over the one who doesn't (Obama)?
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@bsgroup
Hey, BS -- perhaps you should educate yourself on the difference in turnout for caucuses and primaries. Some of those 70-30% BIG WINS are made up of 10 people meeting with a couple of stray cats who are uncommitted.
Obama won one county in Washington State 100% -- there was one delegate.
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@bsgroup
Could you please tell me where you're living? I could swear that in this dimension I voted in a primary last week and Clinton won my state.
Reality: Clinton and Obama are, for all practical purposes, about equal. Depending on how you count, she is ahead a bit, or he might be. The more extreme Obama fants would have that translate to "Hillary should just pull out and save our candidate the effort of wiping the floor with her", but she's not quite ready to cede defeat yet. We've had out say. Let's just let the other states with primaries have theirs, then we can worry about who won what.
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True to his message
If Edwards is true to his message about the need for truly Universal Health care and help to the poor in our society, his endorsement should go to Hillary. She is the candidate with a Universal Healthcare plan and a proven track record of helping children and single mothers (the truly poor). I hope Edwards is a man of his word and does the right thing by endorsing Hillary.
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Which way should he go?
Edwards could really go either way -- I mean, he was in with the DLC before finally dumping his association with them in preparation for his presidential run, so maybe the Clintons will work that angle as they court him, or offer him some plum in the hypothetical Clinton administration.
On the other hand, he distanced himself from the DLC before campaigning, so that would at least imply that he's seen the error of his DLC ways, and recognizes that their approach to Democratic politics are finished, sooner or later. And Obama's closer to him ideologically than Clinton, so, for him to endorse Clinton, he'd have to do so by going around Obama, which would be an awkward fit.
Who do Edwards supporters think he should endorse?
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“She is the candidate with…a proven track record of helping children and single mothers”
Yeah right, do you just paste the talking points from her campaign website? This women and children meme is despicable. As a WalMart Board member Hillary Clinton helped children to work in oversees sweatshops and helped women to labor beneath America’s largest and lowest glass ceiling. There is a great article by union leader Jonathan Tasini on this topic here:
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0207-34.htm
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Edwards will endorse
the candidate with an actual UNIVERSAL health care proposal and the one ACTUALLY appealing to working-class voters. No?
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Obama
I am from Alaska. We had five thousand caucasers show up for Obama. Four years ago there were seven hundred statewide caucasers(is that a word?) The people who showed up in Anchorage at 15 degrees below zero and two hour traffic jams were not there to support the democartic party. They were(seventy two percent) there to support Obama. In the last week he has won by huge majorities; Maine, Louisiana(not so huge), Alaska, Washington, Nebraska, Kansas, and some other states I cannot remember.. many to recall. Obama generates passion and hope. Clinton doesn't even poll better than that right wing nut job McCain.
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As an Edwards' supporter...
I think he should endorse Hillary, if he endorses anyone, in part because of their similar programs on healthcare, but also because they attract many of the same voters -- lower income, to name one category.
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"Who do Edwards supporters think he should endorse?"
Himself, of course! He had the good health care plan AND the anti-lobbyist stance. Now I have to pick between them.
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concerning health care
did anyone catch this article in the New York Times this week concerning mandates and Hillary's first health plan?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/opinion/05brooks.html
This is the one issue that Krugman says makes Obama not his pick for president--and yet Obama is not the only one who has tried to implement health care reform without mandates. And the article talks about Clinton's reputed response to Jim Cooper.
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Philly Peef
I'm with you on that one ...
Personally, I have been amazed at that adoration that many have professed regarding Edwards on this board. Many "progressives" viewed him as the superior candidate ... I liked his professed views, but quite honestly, them seemed to be a bit "flavor of the campaign". In my view, Obama had more experience in elected office and a more solid track record to back his positions. Not to insult Edwards, because I am all for his poverty & anti-corporation agenda ... but I just felt like I needed more proof that these were more than campaign promises. Someone like Obama, who has spent time as a community organizer, and with more years in elected office makes me more confident of his public service agenda.