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Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:00 AM

Obama wins Maine caucuses

With his victory, Barack Obama has swept this weekend's contests.

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Sunday, February 10, 2008 05:17 PM

I like the long primary season

I hope it drags out.

It will make sure that all Democratic voters are heard. That can only be good for the party as a whole. Whether its Clinton or Obama that wins, they'll be ready to appeal to a broad range of people. Thats how you win the General Election. None of this "random state xyz" determines what everyone thinks.

I personally would love to see a Clinton/Obama ticket.

Sunday, February 10, 2008 05:18 PM

A coup d'etat in the making

Obama supporters want the superdelagate rules changed midstream and are pushing to have Hillary give a concession speech before all the states get to vote.

Pro-Obama pundits introduced the race card since New Hampshire then blamed the Clintons for everything.

AS Shakespeare put it, There's something rotten in the state of Denmark...

Sunday, February 10, 2008 05:18 PM

Here's a fun thought experiment

Somebody go dig up that photo of Dukakis in a tank that Bush Sr. used to destroy him in '88. Then Photoshop in Obama's face. Then ask yourself, if that image ran in a commercial during the general election this year, whether voters would be convinced he's a credible commander in chief. Expect similar stuff from McCain and his rightwing allies.

Sunday, February 10, 2008 05:18 PM

From 20% below to front runner...

So far, Obama is running the perfect campain.

Such a good strategy is a strenght if he get nominee, for the general elction.

Sunday, February 10, 2008 05:19 PM

Tex, Ohio, Pennsylvania...IN, MS, MT, WY, SD, NC, KY, VT, RI...

All deserve to be heard and I think it would be great to get a clear mandate for the Dem candidate. I just don't think it is clear what advantage Sen Clinton has in future contests.

I think what is going on with the Republicans right now shows the weakness of crowning a candidate early. It is probably better to wait until either candidate gets 2025 delegates or the Montana primaries, whatever comes first. No "presumptive" candidate.

Sunday, February 10, 2008 05:21 PM

cythera45

And if you do the same with Hillary's face you get a different impression? LOL

Come on now silly bear. Think through your thought experiment first :p

Sunday, February 10, 2008 05:23 PM

Obama running a "perfect campaign"

If he keeps losing core Democratic constituencies by double digits in big-state primaries, I'd call it a flawed campaign. When, when is he going to make a serious effort to reach out to Latinos, working-class Dems, older Dems? Does he want their votes at all?

Sunday, February 10, 2008 05:24 PM

@Brian - Seattle

If you don't see a difference with Hillary's face there, then your guy is VERY vulnerable, dude.

Sunday, February 10, 2008 05:26 PM

BTW Voters in upcoming primaries

Don't forget that Obama really needs to win by convincing margins at this point to clearly get the nomination (ie, not based on Superdelegates or the absence of the sham MI and FL primaries). So even if you think the race is going in his favor still get out and vote. Every vote still counts in this contest because margin of victory is the key.

Sunday, February 10, 2008 05:27 PM

Um, where is the coverage?

Didn't Obama just win a state? Hard to find much news about it? I am sure that it's not pro-Hillary bias. I just think that him winning caucuses has gotten to be old news (dog bites man) too bad for him.

Sunday, February 10, 2008 05:30 PM

Republicans voting in Democractic caucuses

You can be sure Karl Rove had all these Democratic caucuses planned out last fall, when the G.O.P. began organizing its activists to register as Democrats or simply show up on election day to cast votes for Obama. This is how Rove hopes to prevent another Clinton Admin. from wresting control away from the neoconservatives. He's had a lot of help from the mainstream media (not to mention the progressive media) in convincing younger voters that they're picking the next American Idol rather than a viable candidate for president. Now that Romney's out, we're likely to see a huge spike in crossover voting in the remaining states. That's why the superdelegates are needed. It's no surprise the mainstream media has started screaming foul about this process, even though it's the only way to insure that Democrats get to elect their own nominees. (Really, is that too much to ask?) If the unvetted Obama gets nominated as either Pres. or VP, Rove will be waiting to sink the Democratic ship in the fall with his independent ticket and plenty of ads about Obama's long-time friend, the Chicago slumlord Tony Rezko, whose trial on extortion and bribery is set to begin shortly. Rezko preyed on the African American community, which makes it that much worse. For more on this, check out the article I've posted at thecityedition.com, which links to other sources.

Sunday, February 10, 2008 05:30 PM

cythera45

Undoubtedly. Now, Hillary in a tank? That would garner instant and deep respect among Republicans. Come on ... get a grip. Stick to "caucuses don't count." Same as the nine primaries Obama has won; which will be 12 by Tuesday night. Hillary would make a fine President; I despise the GOP; but I don't think she could win because half the country hates her. And I have no desire for a return of the Clinton Circus, or the same two families in the White House for 28 years. And yes I know the differences, believe me. It's just kind of disappointing that Hillary supporters seem to actually believe this series of crushing defeats is all due to too many blacks, too many yuppies, unfair rules, etc., etc. This entire primary/caucus schedule was set up to have her clinch by now. She had nationwide 40-point poll leads ... more money than Fort Knox ... and the entire Democratic establishment behind her. So please, despise the annoying tendencies of some Obama fans, accept the reality of the struggle.

Sunday, February 10, 2008 05:31 PM

@ cythera45

The key to winning elections is to expand the pool of people who will vote for you. Sure, if Hillary gets the nomination she will have the support of the hard core democratic base (except for the african-american vote) and we will congratulate her . . .right after we swear in President John McCain.

Sunday, February 10, 2008 05:32 PM

Superdelegates won't frustrate the popular will of the voters

@NYAmiga:

"Obama supporters want the superdelagate rules changed midstream and are pushing to have Hillary give a concession speech before all the states get to vote."

Yeah, Barack Obama has so much more clout with Democratic insiders than do the Clintons. Gimme a break!

At the end of the primaries, the superdelegates will respect the popular will of the voters as expressed in pledged delegates.

Sunday, February 10, 2008 05:34 PM

Obama's demographics

"If he keeps losing core Democratic constituencies by double digits in big-state primaries, I'd call it a flawed campaign. When, when is he going to make a serious effort to reach out to Latinos, working-class Dems, older Dems? Does he want their votes at all?"

I'm still not convinced these demographics really apply to this campaign. We see it somewhat playing out in some states, then in others it's not as obvious. Clearly the african american vote had an effect in LA and SC, but in other states? What about Washington state where I live? They explain it because we are all college educated and higher income, but the entire state but one district went to Obama. If you've ever been in eastern washington, you really don't get the impression that they are all stock owning, starbucks drinking, SUV driving people. We even joke sometimes that we should succeed from eastern washington so they can vote for republicans and we can vote for democrats.

As the media is trying to figure out who's voting for who, they might just be missing the mark all together. A quick exit poll analysis doesn't really get the full picture. What we really need is a nice full scale analysis by someone that actually knows how to read the data objectively to do a study. I'd really like to see those results.

I really hope I am right honestly. I'm getting tired of pundits putting us in these little sub categories like we all are for or against one another - within the same party! It would be great if in this election that, that categorization has lost most of it's relevance.

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