Letters to the Editor
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By lingo, by jingo!
Cythera, the language you're using is paralleled in many of the other posts, whether from other Hilly-come-latelies or Anonymouseketeers. The whole "demigod" and "coward" party line rhetoric has popped up elsewhere and repeatedly, so are you purported Hillbots just sharing invective, or relying on standardized slanders, using the same buzzwords, bleating with herdlike uniformity? A small herd, but noisy. Certainly not doing HR Clinton any favors with it.
Your whole "latte liberal" line oozes boilerplate right-wing contempt -- I've never heard an actual Democrat call another one that, although I've heard plenty of right-wingdings use it. I mean, have you avoided "limousine liberal" because it would be too obvious a connection to conservative attack rhetoric? I don't believe you're an Edwards supporter, and I wonder if you're even a Clinton supporter, so much as an Obama hater. It's like Ann Coulter on training wheels. Young Republican much?
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This is not the War Room anymore
Unless you want to call it the HQ of the Elect Obama committee.
I don't know. The Clintons have released their tax forms for years, when Bill was president. Senators are required to make their finances public to a degree, aren't they? And the truth is, the Clintons left the White House as the poorest president... ever. They've both written best-sellers, and they got large advances that paid off for their publishers. Bill has gotten rather large speaker's fees. And Hillary's loan to the campaign was just that, now paid off in 72 hours by the financial response that she got. So all in all, it seems to me that Obama is grandstanding, playing on his usual portrayal of the Clintons as corrupt. What, after the Starr report, he has something else on them?
Poor Old Obama. He promises to unite the Blue Dogs with the Independents, and call that the Democratic Party. But first he has to divide Democrats and portray his opponent in just the way that the right, and Matthews et al, have prepared for him. It's so... dreamy. So... inspiring.
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Slackie
I have thought for a while now that cythera is a winger. I think he is being paid to make Obama and Clinton look bad - two Democrats with one stone. And I think most of the people who have joined the conversation in the last few weeks are in the same category. Including Thrasher, maureenodonnell and all those people with z's and x's in their names - can't keep them straight (except edziu's muse - and Xrandadu Hutman and damnthatxanadu, who, even though I get their names mixed up, are supporting opposite candidates). I don't care what people's views are; I am currently uncommitted and I like to read all of them, when they are genuine. But all these people posting in bad faith gets on my nerves. Taking advantage of Salon's very liberal editorial policy. They are not Democrats, let alone liberals, and they have no shame.
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On the otherhand
That the Salon comment blog is being inundated by crazies is obvious. The frantic tenor of the anti-Obama attacks seems to be escalating.
On reflection, maybe its not just supporters of HRC. Most commentators now agree that Obama is the candidate the Republicans fear the most because he lacks HRC's negatives.
What we may be witnessing is two pronged attack on Obama. One is HRC supporters scared stiff he might win and the other is reactionaries scared stiff he might win.
I'm not saying they are colluding, it just that the Repubs and HRCers have one thing in common: fear of Obama.
The danger, and a concern, is that rational bloggers not be http://turned-off by the vitriol. But the sheer volume of vitriol directed at Obama today is truly amazing. He must be doing something right.
35 minutes to closing time.
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hey melthough and slackie
I haven't questioned the authenticity of your views. I believe they are authentically stupid, but they're your views, unbought and unpaid for. (Really, who would pay for them? They're not worth much.)
I love the paranoia of you Obamabots trying to ferret out hidden motives and secret payoffs in posters who criticize your demigod. It's evidence of how insecure you are ultimately about your candidate--you can't deal with criticism but need to find a way to dismiss it, to pawn it off to some ulterior agenda. Oh well, if it makes you feel better, do it!
To the Obamabots, everyone who disagrees with them is a troll. I wonder why they don't just join the Scientologists or the Ayn-Rand cultists. Their mindset would be the same.
Here, try this on for size: I'm not a Hillary supporter or a young Republican, I'm a 68-year-old anarcho-syndicalist pseudo-hermaphrodite antidisestablishmentarian with pro-royalist leanings. Does that help any? Oh, and I hate Barack Obama.
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oh man
“Here, try this on for size: I'm not a Hillary supporter or a young Republican, I'm a 68-year-old anarcho-syndicalist pseudo-hermaphrodite antidisestablishmentarian with pro-royalist leanings. Does that help any? Oh, and I hate Barack Obama.”
From anyone else, I’d think that was hyperbole, a feeble attempt at irony. In this case, however, I think he’s actually sincere. Poor cythera. I don’t even want to respond to him/her in kind anymore – it’s like replying to some crazy old great uncle at Thanksgiving dinner, drooling and ranting and profoundly tragic.
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@timbuktom: RESPONSE TO YOUR IGNORANCE & THE IGNORANCE OF OBAMA
Do not think that because she was only “First Lady” for a period of time that Hillary Clinton could not afford to contribute HER money to her campaign. (You also use “First Lady” as if it was nothing. Hillary Clinton tried to do something for the people of America, while she was the First Lady, which is more than can be stated about any First Lady.)
I really hope you are a man asking this question and not a woman. I would accept this type of ignorance from a man, since this statement has been spewed from commentators, such as Chris Matthews on MSNBC. It just pushes the fact that there is still a high amount of sexism out there. Your statement shows me that you think Hillary Clinton could not possibly have this money and that she would have had to ask her husband Bill Clinton.
First off…get over yourself.
Why don’t you take the time and read some of the jobs Hillary Clinton has held. Hillary Clinton is also an author of best selling books and a co-author for many others. I have also provided those books for you below.
Maybe this will open your eyes. You seem to be a person who thinks a woman is only financially sound, if she has a man behind her. I am sure you will agree with me that whatever Hillary Clinton has, she has it because she has worked very hard for it.
HILLARY’S WORK EXPERIENCE
Following graduation, she became a staff attorney for the Children's Defense Fund
Served as only one of two women lawyers on the staff of the House Judiciary Committee
Hillary ran a legal aid clinic for the poor when she first got to Arkansas and handled cases of foster care and child abuse.
When she was just 30, President Carter appointed her to the board of the United States Legal Services Corporation, a federal nonprofit program that funds legal assistance for the poor.
She also served on national boards for the Children's Defense Fund, the Child Care Action Campaign, and the Children's Television Workshop.
She also continued her legal career as a partner in a law firm. She led the American Bar Association's Commission on Women in the Profession, which played a pioneering role in raising awareness of issues like sexual harassment and equal pay.
Hillary was twice named one of the 100 most influential lawyers in America.
She traveled the globe speaking out against the degradation and abuse of women and standing up for the powerful idea that women's rights are human rights.
In 2000, Hillary was elected to the United States Senate from New York. As Senator, Hillary has continued her advocacy for children and families and has been a national leader on homeland security and national security issues.
She is the first New Yorker ever to serve on the Senate Armed Services Committee, working to see that America's military has the necessary resources to protect our national security.
BOOKS AUTHORED AND CO-AUTHORED BY HILLARY CLINTON
Hillary's 1995 book It Takes A Village, about the responsibility we all have to help children succeed, became an international best seller. Hillary has donated the proceeds -- more than a million dollars -- to children's causes across the country.
Hillary's autobiography, Living History, was also a best seller. It has been translated into 12 languages and sold over 1.3 million copies.
An Invitation to the White House
Everyday Matters
Moving Up and Out: Poverty, Education and the Single Parent
Family
Saving America’s Treasures
Beatrice Goat
Dear Sock, Dear Buddy