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Tuesday, January 8, 2008 12:00 AM

Clinton's woes: Endorsements, money

But will a "lull" after New Hampshire give her time to turn the tables on Obama?

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Tuesday, January 8, 2008 04:13 PM

Incorrigible...great word

Kind of what like Tim Grieve is in relation to his Hillary Clinton postings.

I'd love to see Greenwald do a piece on Tim Grieve similar to the ones he does on Joe Klein. If Glenn held you, Tim, to the same standard he does Joe Klein.....you'd be fucked....big time.

And for the record, I'm an Edwards supporter (and Obama is my second choice).

Tuesday, January 8, 2008 02:59 PM

Comparing to 1960

Perhaps everyone in the political world believed that Lyndon Johnson would beat Jack Kennedy in 1960. Johnson, the majority leader of the Senate, had passed the first civil rights legislation since Reconstruction while recovering from a heart attack. Kennedy was seen as an upstart, all flash and no substance.

Flash forward a half-century. Hillary Clinton has been seen as the inevitable. Barack Obama had been thought a lightweight. And just as in '60 when JFK beat LBJ, it would seem that Obama will manage to pull off a similar feat versus (the) Clinton(s).

In that same spirit, perhaps the best of all worlds would be a repeat in strategy by pairing the rivals on the national ticket next fall. Why couldn't Obama/Clinton '08 be a worthwhile endeavor. It would be a fundraising powerhouse and activist segments of the party would be virtually orgasmic in their endeavors on the ticket's behalf.

And they'd show, once and for all, that America has moved firmly into the 21st century.

Tuesday, January 8, 2008 12:49 PM

Jay Whinter

How many southern states is ANY Democratic presidential candidate going to carry?

Do you think Hillary will carry the same southern states that her husband did?

Also, has it occurred to you that by and large the African-American population is concentrated in the South?

I used to think that Hillary knEw a lot more about campaigning than any of her rivals, but if so, she hasn't been showing it in the past few weeks. The proof is in the pudding. If she's such an awesome candidate, we should see things start to turn around for her soon.

I'm really surprised at how strung out people are about the hype coming out of Iowa and New Hampshire. Of course the media is writing premature obituaries for Hillary; that's par for the course. The media always exaggerates the importance of Iowa and New Hampshire. The media is all about the drama. Remember the brief week when Pat Buchanan was going to be president?

We'll really see how things shake out in the next couple weeks AFTER New Hampshire.

Tuesday, January 8, 2008 12:26 PM

Clintons' Woes?

Tim,

The wrong question is being asked.

Here is the question: 'Who has the ability to carry the South in the General Election,Clinton or Obama?

The winner of the Democratic Nomination still has to pull support away from The Republicans in November and this will not happen without Texas, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, Mississippi, Louisiana, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Arkansas etc...

Obama is doing good where he's supposed to do good... The Midwest.

It's a different fight "In The South".

Two States don't make a race... especially not New Hampshire and Iowa with less than 15 Electoral College Votes Combined!!

Endorsements and Money are not the issue...every politician needs both.

Maybe I'm clueless, but Hillary would be very dumb to think she's out of the race after two states...and Obama is wise for not reading too much into it.

She's forgotten more about campaigning than Obama knows about the subject in it's entirety...and if I had to bet my life on a comeback (according to the media)... I'd not put it past Hillary.

Tuesday, January 8, 2008 12:00 PM

Be Careful of What You Wish For.

Everyone seems to be stampeding to the Obama camp looking for a hero to save us from the last eight years of Bush abuse. This knee-jerk response to lofty worded sermons push all the right emotional buttons for those of us who have suffered enormously from Iraq fatigue to Katrina gloom.

I actually must admit that I have liked so much of the Democratic contenders. I too also have been swayed by the hopeful excitement of Obama's inspirational speeches.

My one and only reservation about the Democratic hopefuls had been with Hillary Clinton. Early on she seemed like a corporately manufactured candidate who was being anointed by the beltway punditry and shoved down my throat like it or not. This didn't sit well we me nor a lot of other folks.

I couldn't put my finger on exactly why I felt the way I did about Hillary. Not being someone who wanted to make my decision based on the professional Hillary Haters of America, I actually took the time to sit down and watch her in televised town hall meetings in Iowa and New Hampshire. (Thank you C-Span).

What I found was more than surprising. I discovered a person who was deeply knowledgeable about the nitty details of every question asked. It was evident this woman not only knows the details, she understands the bigger picture and all the intricate pieces that turn the wheels of what's left of our crumbling dysfunctional government. She's not gifted with the likability factor of Bill, nor is she someone you'd want to have a beer with. She's not Bubba and isn't going to be. What she is is smart and capable of knowing how to execute the fixes necessary to turn this country around.

I kind of liked her toughness and deep intelligence but wasn't convinced until yesterday when a crack in the otherwise hardened veneer seemed to appear. I for the first time saw a glimpse of the human, emotional Hillary Clinton. It was the moment when I realized I have been wrong about her. Terribly wrong. And I feel so many of us have gotten her wrong for a long time. She is not the monster so many of us have been led to believe. Yes, she's guarded to a fault in an effort disquise any sense of vunerability. Who wouldn't be in her shoes.

When she said "I just don't want to see us fall backwards..." it was a powerful reality check. It was simple and directly to the point of what is at stake for all of us. I watched the entire exchange. It's more powerful and moving for me than all the grand orations of a newly annointed hero. I can feel all tingly inside for Obama and passionately populist for Edwards. I am always giddy about the pugnatious Kucinich who handily throws out the truth and hits you between the eyes. I love them all for differing reasons.

But in the end, I'm voting for president. I need to choose between the men in the white hats and great speeches or the woman behind the inpenetrable mask who is all too human. A woman I believe in her heart knows she can save us from our collective nightmare. In the end, I don't know what I will do on February 5th. but am glad that I have moved a very smart, wonderful human being named Hillary Clinton up to the top of my list...and a donation to her campaign is on the way.

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