well, you know. It's brown (usually) and you really don't want to step in it ever, especially just befor trying to drive somewhere for an extended period of time. It results from a life's process and no one is exempt from it's production. It's just that some of us, especially politicians, seem to generate a lot more of it than what is normally required to sustain a healthy outlook.

With all this said, I hope giuliani can't poop for three months.

Do these sorry SOBs think we don't remember anything?! I guess they figure they can get away with flip-flopping (lying?) because they know their Dem opponents, are much nicer, kinder, compassionate people, and won't make gay marriage an issue.

New York Daily News

March 8, 2004

Rudy opposes gay nups ban

By James Gordon Meek, Daily News Washington Bureau

 WASHINGTON - Rudy Giuliani came out yesterday against President Bush's call for a ban on gay marriage.

 The former mayor, who Vice President Cheney joked the other night is after his job, vigorously defended the President on his post-9/11 leadership but made clear he disagrees with Bush's proposal to rewrite the Constitution to outlaw gays and lesbians from tying the knot.

"I don't think it's ripe for decision at this point," he said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

"I certainly wouldn't support [a ban] at this time," added Giuliani, who lived with a gay Manhattan couple when he moved out of Gracie Mansion during his nasty divorce.

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Giuliani conceded he's "out of sync" with his party's conservative base, but likened himself to other moderate GOP stars like Gov. Pataki and Calif. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

The fact that someone like Ron Paul is right about a few things just goes to show how wrong so many others are. As a liberal Democrat, Ron Paul is just about the last person I'd ever want to represent my views.

The social liberals will be forced to vote for Guiliani, while the social conservatives vote for Clinton?

Close. All the social conservatives and antiwar conservatives/republicans will be voting for Ron Paul, and all of the antiwar democrats and social liberals who are passionately against things like the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, Torture, FISA, etc. etc. will be voting for Ron Paul as well. I mean, we've heard all about heroic Dodd on Salon, so I imagine that those who value Civil Liberties read Naomi Wolf's recent article on HuffPo about Ron Paul introducing the American Freedom Agenda Act of 2007, and read the subsequent legislation, right? Amirite?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wolf/finally-action-ron-pau_b_69042.html

http://www.americanfreedomcampaign.org/storage/afagenda/documents/AFA%20Act%20text.pdf

Oh wait, Paul isn't a Democrat, so there is no way the true believers will go for it, it must be a fascist plot of some kind. It would only be serious and newsworthy to a true believer if it was introduced by someone from its "side" of the isle.

Will prevent any of those under his spell from looking into this on their own. The True Believers have no need to verify the words of their leaders because they are obviously all true. The people that are gullible enough to buy into Giuliani are the Red State Fascists who are hypnotized by tough talking Authoritarians like Ghouls and who believe that Republicans are so virtuous that they can ONLY tell the truth, any attempt to say otherwise is merely a smear campaign by the liberal media. These are the same people who believe that the only people that tell lies are "liberals and leftists", and if you bring up something you saw or read that paints a Republican like Scoop and Dump in a bad light you get, "how can watch/read ? It is so liberal/leftist".

Yup, the only people buying old Scoop and Dump's snake oil are the same ones that are going to take him at his word and not waste their time reading up on the candidates, especially since all the stuff they find will somehow be tainted by "liberals/leftists" in their eyes.

He can support gay marriages and still hope that he hadn't performed one without knowing about it.

I hope that all the marriages that I've performed are legal too. It doesn't mean that I wouldn't perform a legal gay marriage if the state actually came to its senses.

The social liberals will be forced to vote for Guiliani, while the social conservatives vote for Clinton?

Clearly that comment was made before Sept 11th changed everything!

end sarcasm (just in case anyone wasn't clear).