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Monday, July 16, 2007 12:00 AM

Quote of the day

Neoconservative Michael Ledeen declares Osama bin Laden dead. Again.

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Monday, July 16, 2007 06:58 AM

Let me fix it for you

"That's neoconservative pseudo-intellectual Michael Ledeen"

Monday, July 16, 2007 07:17 AM

Another, more immediate, funeral

Seems to me neo-cons are about to be pronounced dead. Or have they passed already? Where was Ledeen writing from?

Monday, July 16, 2007 07:42 AM

I beg to differ

The term "pseudo" is thoroughly unnecessary between "neoconservative" and "intellectual." It's redundant, and already understood "as is" by any reasonable person.

Monday, July 16, 2007 07:48 AM

Oh, so now Osama matters again? I didn't get the press release.

"So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. I'm more worried about making sure that our soldiers are well-supplied; that the strategy is clear; that the coalition is strong; ..." - Bush 2002.

Monday, July 16, 2007 07:52 AM

I'm so confused...

I have to tell you, I'm really confused. After 9|11 we were told that Osama was behind the attacks. Then, bin Laden came out and said that he wasn't. I swear I'm not making that up. Here's the CNN story.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/

He never directly claimed responsibility for the attacks until October 2004.

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2004/10/29/binladen_message041029.html

After the CIA and special forces ran up in Afghanistan to get him and the military failed to back them up - a result of internal feuding between Tom Ridge and Donald Rumsfeld* - we, at Rumsfeld's behest turned our attention to Iraq.

* Source: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/

Bin Laden fell out of favor with the Bush Administration in speeches as Iraq became the new front for the War on Terror. Now he's used as a prop to scare us.

So I have to admit. I'm confused. Did Osama plan 9|11? Why does it look like Bush and Cheney have gained the most since 9|11? Even doubling the sum for bin Laden from $25 to $50 million I still don't understand the logic. Why is it so hard to feel comfortable in knowing what happened on 9|11?

The events of that day feel long on mythology and short on truth.

Monday, July 16, 2007 08:05 AM

*chuckle*

My snapshot on our department's website is several years old - guess I'm dead or they'd've done a new one.

Monday, July 16, 2007 08:30 AM

With my apologies to Camus:

'Osama died today, or was it yesterday, it doesn't matter...'

Bushit has kept him "alive" over the past five or six years by ineptitude, hate, fear, and placing politics over the safety of the USA. Heck of a job Bushy...

Impeach. The rest is just a waste of time.

Monday, July 16, 2007 09:04 AM

Playing to the base - the deeply stupid base

National Review? You mean these guys?

(article on NR cruise "Ship of Fools")

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article2766040.ece

Monday, July 16, 2007 09:28 AM

Actually ...

"neoconservative intellectual" is an oxymoron. Nobody with an actual working intellect would ever come up with the crap that these bozos do.

Monday, July 16, 2007 12:35 PM

Universal Fascist

I am "conservative" on a variety of issues (although I don't believe these terms have any meaning.). Michael Ledeen goes way beyond "neoconservative intellectual:" He would be technically closer to a universal fascist.

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