I'm surprised a "who's on first?" didn't slip in there somewhere.

I'm really not sure how any of these press conferences can be conducted with a straight face. Talk about a Snow-job!

Hailing from that great shining bastion of nuance, Fox News. Thank you ladies and gentlemen, Tony will be giving autographs and sweeping generalizations for a small fee of $50 in the lobby... you can also pick up his book "BullSh*t, and How Got So Despicably Good At It"

that the White House didn't just cut Gates's legs out from under him by saying they disagree with the characterization. Sure, it would have sounded a little odd and/or out of touch to reject their new Secretarial nomination and his well-received honest admission. But now they have to deal with this stupid semantic mess. Their wheels are clearly coming off if they can't just spin the simplest of damage-control talk.

Goody

what is Tony Snow's professional outlook for the future? He can't be accepted as a journalist after all this, can he?

Capt. John Smith: Are you kidding? Snow is not and never has been a journalist. Even if he had been, his stint on Fox News destroyed any vestige of journalistic ability, much less integrity.

And the politicians and corporate heads are already lining up, drooling, for the chance to offer Tony millions to put his reality-defying talents to work for them.

Rule Six: THERE IS NO - RULE - SIX!

Rule Seven: No Pooftahs...

(Thank you, John Cleese)

- PonB

"But if you want to try to get a nuance to full understanding of where Bob Gates stands on these issues with regard to the president and his policies and the definition of what it is to win in Iraq and what it takes, then I think you're going to find that there is -- that he agrees and also that he is committed to the mission." - Tony Snow, Dec 5, 2006.

"Joe, I don't do nuance." --George W. Bush to Sen. Joseph Biden, as quoted in Time, Feb. 15, 2004.

- PonB

I have such a headache after reading that exchange. Who in the entire world, besides Bush and Snow, thinks we are winning the war in Iraq?

Anyone, anyone, anyone?

If Snow answered my question as to whether the President believes we are still winning in Iraq with "I'm not going to tell you what the president would say", I would look him straight in the eye and say, "You're job is to tell us the President's views. If you don't know the President's views on one of the most important questions in American's minds that go stop wasting our time and send someone in who is actually qualified for this job." I can't believe the press wastes its time playing gottcha games with that amoral lying scumbag. If they had any self-respect at all they would boycott the press conferences instead of providing a mouthpiece for the administrations lies.

Rather interesting to hear the White House press secretary admonishing the press for not having a proper understanding of how complex situations often require complex, nuanced answers. Now... where, oh where, did I hear that before? I seem to recall... wasn't there a guy, who talked about nuance? And the White House ridiculed him? Called him a "flip-flopper"? Who was it... Ralph Nader? No.. .no... OH, right. John Kerry.

It's gonna be interesting to see how Bush keeps from "flip-flopping" on the notion that America is "winning" the "post-combat operations" in "Iraq" when the "dead bodies" of "heroes" keep "piling up."

What's the point of him talking, anyway?! it's totally useless.

But I would change the "Snow" character's name to something else. Too obvious.

Points to you, Tony, you can spin and dance like no one else.

But seeing as you like to have us examine larger picture, perhaps you should comment on your very own position in it.

After all, Bush's old press agents were hired to over-simplify the situations -- everything is black and white, all conflicts are good vs evil.

Now they rely on you to trot out and *over complicate* the simplest issues in desperate attempt to whitewash the President.

That's the larger picture, big guy. And you're just a thin cellophane veil in front of it that we can see right through.

I quoteth from Monty Pyton. This time, from the book of "The Dead Parrot" sketch:

Mr. Praline: "Look, matey, I know a dead parrot when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now."

Owner: "No no! 'E's pining!"

Mr. Praline: 'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!!

Owner: Well, I'd better replace it, then. (he takes a quick peek behind the counter) Sorry squire, I've had a look 'round the back of the shop, and uh, we're right out of parrots.

I think SNL could use some new writers. Maybe those reporters and Tony Snow can fill the requirements.

Fuck you, Tony Snow, and fuck your boss, too. Fuck everyone who voted for Bush, and fuck everyone who supports this war in Iraq--including you spinless fucking Democrats in Congress who didn't have the balls to vote against it and who still quake in fear of being called weak on National Defense.

You are all wrong. You were wrong then; you are still wrong. We told you so, and it sucks to have been right all along. Congratulations. We have now lost as many members of our Armed Forces (to say nothing of tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis and Afghans) as we lost when Bush was asleep at the wheel on September 11, 2001. And are we better off? Safer? Is the world a better place for this massive clusterfuck called U.S. Foreign Policy?

If you don't know the answer, then fuck you, too.