Just watching Fox 'news' is torture enough for me. They say Kalid Sheik Mohammad held out for two and half minutes. That's double the time I could hold out watching Fox. I've been known to beg for the remote after only about 20 seconds of Bill O'Rielly. Neil Cavuto? My gag reflex kicks in just seconds after I see his fat little pig face.

"The logical move before waterboarding would be to eat lightly, or not at all. But logic might not be the right approach to waterboarding. I went with eggs benedict, coffee, orange juice and berries with creme fraiche. The waitress brought the berries first, but I decided to hold them until after the eggs, which was a good move. The creme fraiche was excellent. I could have eaten a second tureenful."

This is a suspiciously liberal breakfast: two French items are being featured! And commended! And the word "tureenful" is being trotted out! I'm pretty sure he must have had a demitasse of espresso as well.

Maybe Fox is trying to head off Mr. Harrigan's conlcusions on waterboarding, which odds are will not be too laudatory, by painting him namby-pamby. His photo, with the Fox ticker below him, has him reporting from Havana.

Also, are we giving the terrorists such culinary finery before the dunkng begins? Doubt it. He's probably spot-on for concluding that "logic might not be the right approach for waterboarding." It's kind of like the witch-dunking thing from the 17th C., right? I guess Harrigan will let us know. Good for him. Seriously. No, seriously.

"She's a witch! A witch! She turned me into a newt!" But today, "He's a terrorist! A terrorist! He hates my freedoms!"

It isn't torture if you have your friend do it to you -- there is no doubt they will stop if it becomes even remotely dangerous. Prisoners *have* died at the hands of US interrogators, and "major organ failure to the point of death" is a very real threat during these sessions. To be more realistic, he needs to have some prisoners from Gitmo apply the waterboarding without outside supervision. Perhaps then he would not be quite so flippant.

What Fox is doing is more of a fraternity prank than an exploration of torture.

Is it not grotesque that they made it illegal for their torture victims to talk about their torture? It is a like perverts who molest children, and then make the children promise never to tell.

The thing that confuses me is this:

It is now forbidden for the torture victims to tell even their own lawyers how they were tortured. If even ONE of those detainees is ever released, exactly how is the government going to stop them from telling, well, anybody? Particularly since many of them are foreign nationals! Are we going to assign CIA agents to each one of them, ready to liquidate if they try to speak to the press in their counties?

Or does this just make it all the less likely that we'll ever release ANY detainee, whether they're guilty or not?

As for any Americans that might be held and tortured (now or in the future), I wonder what legal basis there is to stop a released citizen from speaking about such an experience? I know that habeas corpus is gone, but did Congress eliminate the First Amendment while we weren't looking, too?

If you're saying that a FOX news reporter is allowing himself to be waterboarded on camera ..... well that clip better show up on Video Dog, is all I'm saying.

Since Fox news has been a soap box for the right wing agenda for years it surprised me that they have not been forced to clearly label themselves as such. Most news events that the network reports on have been told from a view that benefits the republicans. Although free speech should be available to any and all views it is bad journalism to only report for the benefit of a single agenda. Fox should omit the word NEWS from their network until they decide to report with journalistic merit. This should be an FCC law.

Unless I am wrong, that is a direct quote from General Franks.

This article only confirms what many people already know, fools make bad choices and don't clearly see the consequences until its too late. Unfortunately, 500,000 +- Iraqi deaths and 1-2 Trillion dollars later, the obvious is becoming clear, even to the neocons.

Tommy Franks said Feith of the Office of Special Plans (now retired) was the dumbest person.

Watching this on Viedo dog made me want to puke. Tolerable Torture a la Bush and Cheney. Why was there a Geneva Convention with the US signing on? Lets hope that somebody gets the chance to practice this awful procedure on the prepretators of the Iraq war. I would like to see how long Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Frum, Perle, etc.etc would last under this type of questioning.

So the government can release atom bomb plans on the internet, but torture victims can't talk about their experiences. Makes sense.

I stumbled on this report on FOX while channel surfing over the weekend. while the reported did say it was a difficult experience he seemed to stress that he was as good as new once it stopped. He was highlinght the point that he felt fine afterwords, thus invoking the infamous meme that it can't be torture if there are no long lasting effects. The whole thing was nauseating.

And as someone else pointed out, he knew he was among friends. It was an entirely different mindset from someone who is a prisoner.