Letters to the Editor
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This *is* interesting
A question: did Tenet or Black testify under oath? Condi, of course, didn't....
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Bad, bad bad for GOP
Gotta disagree with you about Rove digging the Foley revelations, Tim. I can't think of too many things that would be worse for the Republicans' chances of holding on to Congress right now than a scandal in which the party of family values is perceived as coddling a pedophile in their ranks.
Hypocrites, pedophile protectors...yes, even the Democrats can't screw this one up. Along with George "Macaca" Allen and Jack Abramhoff, we're getting quite a picture of the Groin Old Party.
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Interesting choice of words
Rice finds this "incomprehensible"? I would think, if it were untrue and my integrity were on the line, I would use the word "reprehensible".
So, rather than being pissed off that someone questions her veracity, she is instead unable to comprehend?
Hmm... not that she hasn't shown that characteristic before.
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Rice said that her "staff is checking to see if there is any record of the July 10, 2001, meeting."
Better check the paper shredder fast!
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This...
will go nowhere I predict. The only thing that iis assured is that the conspiracy theorists will now place the 9/11 report even closer to the Warren report as the top 2 cover ups.
Oliver Stone's World Trade Center will become updated for the DVD release showing Condi operating the remote control that guided the planes into the buildings.
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9/11 warning
Let me get this straight. Tenet did not testify to the commission regarding this warning, either, right? Which is why he is not on a long vacation with a bag over his head? Or did he mention it and it just somehow didn't get included in the Commission's report? Is he Woodward's source now?
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Karl Rove Really Is an Idiot
How stupid does he think we are?
OF COURSE we're going to look at news of this tawdry episode with the FL congressman and connect the dots to a larger pattern of corruption. Already the GOP spin machine is trying, desperately I'm sure, to change the subject. Except that they're not finding too many places to go. The torture bill got a lot of press, but the attempt to smear Democrats as soft doesn't seem to be taking. There's the NIE report, the fact that Sen. DeWine of OH knew about it long before it ever came out, which suggests others knew too. There's the new book by Woodward that basically says what we all know, that Bush wasn't entirely truthful with the American public about the war in Iraq. There's President Clinton taking the FOX news people to task, and from where I sit, there are too many fires to put out. Leave alone the fact that George Allen can't seem to outrun the racist label. Leave alone the fact that Conrad Burns of MT is imploding over charges of accepting bribes for votes. Everywhere one looks in the GOP one finds corruption, depravity, influence peddling, outright falsehoods, and secrets coming home to roost. From my perspective, Karl Rove has set off too many bombs, lit too many fires and now is in danger of torching the entire GOP. If they were smart, they'd fire his ass NOW.
But they aren't that smart. They're arrogant and hypocritical, and now their collective ass is getting bit HARD.
Pride goes before a fall, and a haughty spirit before destruction.
The Book of Proverbs.
The irony of this should not be lost on anyone here in the Salon.
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We've heard this before
You can always say that you can't remember, you can't recall, you can stonewall them.
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Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.
In front of the 9/11 Commission Rice dismissed the famous August 6, 2001 daily briefing "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S." as just 'historical material,' not of any pressing significance or concern. So Woodward's account of the Tenet and Black meeting rings true: she, as well as the rest of the Bush team, seemed intent on not dealing with the mounting threat of terrorism in the months leading up to September 11, 2001. Remember the attack on the U.S.S. Cole occurred on October 12, 2000, roughly only three months before bush, Rice, Cheney, et al took office.
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Joe the Ho, Again
The Bushit administration is guilty of criminal negligance in the 9/11 attacks. Condi was busy being house coon at de Crawfish Playranch for a month. They were warned, and they did less than nothing. bushit holds the record for most vacation every taken by someone pretending to be president. Nice try, Ho.
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Let's Give Ourselves a Little Reality Check, Joe.
"Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S."
"Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S."
"Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S."
"Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S."
"Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S."
Now, I know you Repubs think that words actually mean the opposite of what they are supposed to, and Fox News probably isn't interested in covering the fact that the Aug 6 PDB was specifically titled so by the CIA as possibly the strongest red-flag wording it could give Mr. Bush--sad, by the way, that he doesn't read, much less comprehend--but come on. Do a little research, will ya'? Its actually more fun than buying the horse shit being peddled by the Administration and their right-wing media whores.
"Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S."
"Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S."
What is there not to get?
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Yeah, Condi...
We find it incomprehensible, too!
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Mr. Smith...
The answer to that quote is, and always was, no shit.
When, where, how? Nobody had those answers.
Again, I predict this will just become another point of debate, nothing more.
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Why Tenet and Aide Failed to Shake Rice into Action
I trust the journalistic integrity of Bob Woodward and yet I also believe that Condi Rice would have been "shaken into action" if she was warned about an impending Al-Quaida attack that she didn't already expect. So I am trying to find a theory that makes sense in explaining this paradoxical situation. My best guess is that both Condi Rice and President Bush expected the attack and any warning incident short of knowing what the hijackers would actually do, would not change their stance. I believe they were really waiting for a conventional hijack, albeit on a grand scale, something dramatic but relatively harmless. They could initially give in to the hijackers' demands and then use the incident as the reason for a massive invasion of the terrorist's lair in Afghanistan and elsewhere. Under this scenario, the American people will rally strongly behind the president. Under this scenario, we can understand in a new light what Condi Rice said: "none of us expected hijackers to fly these planes into buildings". In other words, they were willing to take the first blow as a sacrifice move, much as a boxer might deliberately allow himself to be hit in order to create an opening for a lethal counter-attack. She and the president didn't realize that the first blow would take down 3,000 American lives.