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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:00 AM

James Dobson: Gay marriage is like slavery, only worse

The Focus on the Family leader plays the gay card hard in a preview of the 2006 campaign.

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 02:06 PM

Hey Jamie!

Focus on your own damn family.

Wednesday, June 28, 2006 02:35 PM

gay marriage reduces aids transmissions, and can save society

TIME Magazine reported:

"HIV-prevention efforts, especially when they aim their messages at young people, can appear to be a battle between promoting the value of abstinence and touting that of condom use. According to an article in the British Medical Journal, campaigns often miss the obvious. There would be no global AIDS pandemic if people had sex with fewer partners. Yet the role of fidelity — or as researchers call it, partner reduction — is neglected. Limiting sex partners, according to an accompanying editorial, is "good common sense — and good epidemiology."

Jorge Saavedra, Director of the Mexican government's National Center for Prevention and Treatment of HIV/AIDS, said the following to participants at an HIV prevention conference this week:

"Marriage is a factor in the reduction of sexual partners for heterosexuals, it reduces the risk of contracting AIDS, which is why to open that possibility for homosexuals would be positive in reducing infection rates."

the Netherlands have reduced their aids transmission rates by 55% since they instituted gay marriage, source : the Dutch Ministry of Health, Welfare and Sport.

anti gay marriage activists gary becker and richard posner have even admitted :

"Allowing homosexual marriage will discourage some gays or lesbians from entering heterosexual marriages that they later dissolve. But that effect is likely to be very small. If allowing same sex marriage reduced the number of partners among homosexuals, that is likely to reduce the incidence of Aids."

worse than slavery? seems mr.dobson is again floating in the ocean of false hyperbole, awash in dangerous ideology. he is a dangerous man, striving to guarantee a death sentance to millions of americans. now that seems worse than slavery to me.

Wednesday, June 28, 2006 03:00 PM

DOBSON'S ALTERNATE UNIVERSE

James Dobson makes a good Bush Republican because he is undeterred by the absence of facts for the positions he preaches. There is absolutely no evidence that homosexuality has any impact on the institution of marriage either good or bad. As for his biblical foundation, in the entire New Testament, Jesus is quoted as saying NOTHING about homosexuality. In fact, I think Jesus would find most of the beliefs of James Dobson and his ilk to be quite repugnant, since Jesus was about love, forgiveness and eternal salvation.

Wednesday, June 28, 2006 04:00 PM

WACKOs

I think you should start a new blog. Call it "WACKOs". Quotes from Ann (the wicked witch), James (the homophob), Rush (the big fat lying idiot), maybe even the Shrub (little bush), and Dick (the great hunter)... would fall into this category.

If you want a laugh, or cry, you can just hit the WACKO of the hour or minute (or whatever) link.

Wednesday, June 28, 2006 04:08 PM

re: gay marriage reduces aids transmissions

That may very well be true but many of the Christian Right view HIV and AIDS as a curse and/or plague sent by "God" as punishment against homosexuals for the 'wickedness of their ways.'

Unlikely that they then think far enough ahead to see how gay marriage could save society or at least reduce HIV infection because they just don't care. So much for christian love and charity.

Sadly it is just another drum beat of propaganda used previously with great effect to get out the 'right' vote.

Wednesday, June 28, 2006 05:07 PM

oh, please, not again

in the entire New Testament, Jesus is quoted as saying NOTHING about homosexuality.

Yeah, and he said nothing about wife-beating, embezzlement, drug dealing, genecide, or any number of other things. By your quite childish reasoning, all these things are therefore okay. Don't you silly libs ever get tired of making the same stupid, easily refuted arguments over and over again?

And Mr. Grieve again shows his Christo-phobia and ignorance, this time of history. The Wilberforce comparison is to a man who was undeterred by failure. Every year for 30 years he introduced a resolution to end the slave trade, and year after year it was defeated by political maneuvering and the entrenched interests. What kept Wilberforce from just giving up? His Christian faith.

Wednesday, June 28, 2006 05:17 PM

Yet Dobson's No Slave to God's Word.

Dobson compares homosexuality to slavery? How interesting that it is exactly the same places in the bible that support and justify human slavery-- namely Leviticus and the writings of Paul-- that offer the brief condemnations of homosexuality from which Dobson and other Christian "literalists" hang their whole obsessive antigay agenda.

The book of Leviticus has a whole lot more to say about what kinds of human slaves God allows you to own than it does about anything having anything to do with homosexuality (see Leviticus 25 for example); likewise, Paul insists a lot more about how slaves should passively obey their human masters (which I'm sure helped make it a whole lot easier for those masters to keep their human "cattle" in line), than he ever speaks of anything gay, which he arguably does once, in Romans.

Historically, slave-holders used the exact same books in the bible to argue that God supports slavery that Dobson uses to attack gays. And slave-holders had a whole heck of a lot more verses to draw on that said exactly that: according to Leviticus and Paul, God apparently thinks slavery is fine and dandy. Who wants to bet that if Dobson were around 200 years ago, he'd be thumping on the exact same biblical "literalism" to argue about why it was fine that he owned slaves?

If we had a media with any balls whatsoever, every single time one of these Christian "fundamentalists" bozos like Dobson appeared arguing that their antigay agenda was biblical in nature, they'd be forced to address whether they also supported the exact same biblical sources' view of slavery, and, if not, why not. But you almost never see that happen, because, heaven knows, we wouldn't ever want to do anything extreme, like, say, actually confronting someone on their own terms.

Wednesday, June 28, 2006 06:17 PM

Get on an Attack Mode

Dobson is the personification of what went wrong with the Republican Party. Dobson's message is one of bigotry, intolerance and totalitarianism. In that sense, Dobson is a terrorist trying to hijack a country that was founded on tolerance. He represents the tyranny of a few over the majority.

It is high time that Americans start rebelling against that psychotic brand of Christianism.

Wednesday, June 28, 2006 06:18 PM

Hey Gerry

I have never met an anti-gay "Christian" who can tell me just how gays committing to marriage to their lifelong partners effects the marriages of heterosexuals.

Comparing homosexuality to wifebeating, by the way, in the name of your religion, such as it is, is an offense to Christians to believe in the actual teachings of Christ.

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