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Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:00 AM

Trusting Walter Cronkite

We know no one else will ever be able to say "And that's the way it is." Can anyone emulate his truth-telling?

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Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:15 PM

Joan-PLEASE END ROLL OVER ADS

I do not know who to complain to, to I chose you, the editor. Is there anything you can do about the annoying 'Roll Over Ads' you have in your site. It is impossible to navigate and read an article without one of those ads popping up and blocking the article.

I will purposely avoid any advertiser who uses them. They are intrusive and annoying. I realize it takes ads to pay the bills, but this "in your face" stuff really stinks.

Thank you,

PS. I do not know how you keep your composure when debating 'Uncle Pat'. (More like the relative that you are embarrassed to have show up at family events)

Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:23 PM

Dear Joan

You are one of the few, Rachael, Ed and Keith all tell the truth, but fall short of challenging the other journalist on their MSNBC Network that spin the truth. CNN and the other networks present half truths to present themselves as being impartial.

Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:24 PM

@Cuchulain2007

The right side of the country got into the sorry way they are now by ignoring or denying fact. If we don't want to get into the same boat of stupid, we better not start ignoring or denying facts either.

Bush is over, so the story itself is more or less moot. And the credibility of anyone who wants to discuss it while ignoring or denying the fake letters is just not going to rate very high with most fair minded people. If the letters were fake, then what else was fake? If they were faked, then who faked them and why won't CBS tell us the source of the letters? If Rather won't admit they were fake, then what is his credibility on anything?

If you want credibility, you just can't fake documents or support them. Some things are just not acceptable no matter what else might be wrong, b/c accepting those things will just make everything else worse.

Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:54 PM

Well, not unless some intrepid young reporter in Afghanistan steps up to take over... but where are they?

Who might be the next one?

Amy Goodman? Left-wing shill for the Ford Foundation and a host of other billionaire-financed private foundations? She took $150,000 from the FF in 2004, when the ACLU turned it down over 'anti-terrorist financing clauses'. For a $4 million/year outfit, they don't really do anything but respin stories dug up by other reporters.

A Salon 'reporter'? Hardly, this is social fluff devoid of content, other than covering up for the new round of Washington elitists, or rather the reclaiming of lost ground by neoliberal powermongers like Hillary Clinton - and Salon has ignored the Honduran coup, by and large, not that it isn't a juicy story:

According to The Hill, Honduran business leaders are hiring Washington lobbyists to convince members of Congress that they should support the removal of Zelaya, who was ousted in a military coup two weeks ago.

The Honduran branch of the Business Council of Latin America (CEAL) has hired Davis, a former White House special counsel and well-known supporter of Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton. The organization is a network of Latin American business leaders that is akin to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

The neoconservative empire-builders have been tossed out, and here come the neoliberal empire-builders - but I don't see any of the 'progressive journalists' doing anything that different from the 'corporate journalists' when it comes to real investigative reporting.

For example, does Salon or DemocracyNow! ever considering using their budgets to give airline tickets and money to young journalists who are willing to risk their lives in Iraq and Afghanistan and a host of other countries, like Cronkite did in Vietnam? Surely, Amy Goodman can spare some of her $4 million a year budget to do that, right?

I don't see that happening, do you? Why? Because the left-wing private-foundation sponsored 'press' in the U.S. is just as much a fraud as the right-wing version. It's called propaganda, and it's not really that clever - although I will admit, a lot of suckers have fallen for it.

Serious questions have arisen about how Democracy Now!, begun and developed with the resources of Pacifica Radio and grants from the Carnegie Corporation, the Ford Foundation, the J.M. Kaplan Fund and others, suddenly became independent and the effective property of Amy Goodman without recompense to Pacifica. This transfer apparently included valuable assets such as trademarks, ownership of years of archived programs, affiliate station access, and more.

Who wants to bet that the whole operation is a front group for neoliberal corporate interests who don't care whether Republicans or Democrats get into power as long as they get their way? Recreate '68, however, was an obvious effort by Goodman to attack Democrats and thus raise the chances of Republicans, a role she also played in the 2000 elections along with Ralph Nader.

So no, you guys are not Walter Cronkite. Neither are the talking heads at the major networks - the real reporters who were on the ground (Lara Logan) were actually attacked by the rest of the media for telling the truth about the situation. Now, the liberal corporate press will be even more unwilling to cover the facts in Afghanistan and Iraq - or to show any video or photos from the region, either. The conservative corporate press is no different, and the same goes for the privately-financed 'progressive non-profits'.

No coverage at all of the recent Afghan offensive, for example - that's an across-the-board media phenomenon, one that bodes ill for the future of this country.

The game is a fraud, and we know it is a fraud because anyone like Cronkite gets kicked out of the corporate/non-profit media system as soon as they appear - Wall Street and the Pentagon have learned something about media control since Vietnam, after all, and they enforce their agenda by firing editors and reporters who don't perform as expected.

Sunday, July 19, 2009 01:23 PM

peter

There was a chance with Peter Jennings. He had a similar moral ethical underpinning. He was also from that CBC BBC news for news not for entertainment world. Sadly in a world where they all smoked packs a day, his quitting didn't spare him like it did the rest.

I agree with Joan about Dan Rather. He was swift boated by hypocrites. He diminished in my view long before in covering the Iraq war ... "First of all I am a patriot" ... an understandable motive t be sure, but he like everyone else let it cloud his reporting. His story later in exposing GWB as a lazy AWOL punk was brave and on the mark ... and better documented than the excuses for the war. The noise machine did him in.

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