You gave him a D- instead of a F?

What? Are you some kind of bleeding heart liberal?

If he made any effort whatsoever a D- would be acceptable.

He didn't and doesn't - FAIL.

Well, then, how about this ???

Quote from Timothy3 ....

"Oh, my friends, this is why we authorized many years ago a CIA program that examines your browsing habits. It's been clear to us all--and for quite some time--that the typical American's online search for pornography is the source of all our Evils. Why else do those Talibanners--those sign-making fanatics--hate us and our, um, porn-loving, freedom-seeking, porn-loving ways?"

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If indeed, we do "become what we think about", I guess americans are becoming a bunch of cocks and cunts.

Ha, Ha ...

The kind of lack of discipline that convinced Attila the Hun that he could take Rome.

The CIA withheld information from Congress. Nancy Pelosi claimed that the CIA lied to her about waterboarding. These are TWO different claims. Should the CIA be investigated. Yes. Should Nancy Pelosi be given apology. NO!! because she still lied and was actively involved in giving political cover to the Bush/Cheney cabal. Honestly everything she's done so far is all about saving herself (including her endless harping about the public option). Pelosi needs to go and if the left won't hold one of our own accountable then we are no better than the Rethugs.

'if his Justice Dept doesn't get it into gear..."

What Justice Dept.? That ragtag band of Rove-appointed shills who still hold office carrying out the mission of the Bush Malignancy, led by an AG who totally comprimised himself before even taking office and whose only significant act thus far has been to dismiss charges against US Senatewhore Ted Stevens?

Obama Report Card thus far:

Accountabilty F

Justice F

Transparency F

Competency D-

The primary reason that Congress is unlikely to do much about the revelation that the CIA was hiding information is, as Hatchmatcher pointed out, public apathy. Note that Joan's fine article has thus far only elicited 75 responses, many from the same 3 people; if she'd written another article about Sarah Palin, we'd see a good 600 posts.

My guess is that Obama's reluctance to pursue investigation of the Bush-Cheney years is due not so much to his desire to retain their policies (though even I, an admitted Obamabot, am not dismissing this motive) but that the political capital that would need to be expended is simply not worth what the return would be. The belief is that most Americans either dont care, or, frankly, have determined that the violation of the civil liberties of "others" is not to be lamented. Simply put, we'll live with a little illegality so long as the economy gets fixed and no one attacks us.

Dear Joan,

You are rivaling, mr Dear Friend, Glenn, as my morning's 1st read.

I wish Glenn could get more TV airtime (You've done so well weathering the baboons) on the tube.

I will send this excellent article to my friends, but I wish that I could publicly post on OS, which I no longer can do for a multiplicity of reasons.

Please keep up the good work.

Your devoted friend,

mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6gjnOeP3nQ&feature=PlayList&p=0BA9A8A1E205AE18&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=18

Events dictate action. The CIA engaged in something that it kept from its new director for over 5 months and from Congress for over 8 years. When Director Panetta learned about it, he stopped the program and informed Congress. That's one reason, among many, that I think Panetta is an outstanding public servant then (in former years) and now

Even if there is a full report by Panetta, and one from the Inspector General (IG), there needs to be a Congressional investigation by the House and Senate separately with outside counsel and subpoena power. Not only do we need to know what happended, but we need to know what in the structure and system allowed such gross secrecy and abuse of power to happen. Who ordered it and who is responsible, at high levels, for obeying orders to create these horrendous actions and organizations.

Let us all hope Seymour Hersh and Jane Mayer are on the case.

We need their probing journalism to help us all keep shaking things up.

You wrote:

“The revelation that Panetta informed Congress that the CIA was “concealing significant actions” from both houses for eight years (and from himself, it seems, for four months) has led to calls from Democratic lawmakers for a full investigation into both the program, and whether any laws were broken concealing it from Congress.”

How do you reconcile this statement with the following information?

“Beginning in 2002, Nancy Pelosi and other key Democrats (as well as Republicans) on the House and Senate Intelligence Committees were thoroughly, and repeatedly, briefed on the CIA's covert antiterror interrogation programs. They did nothing to stop such activities, when they weren't fully sanctioning them. If they now decide the tactics they heard about then amount to abuse, then by their own logic they themselves are complicit. Let's review the history the political class would prefer to forget.

According to our sources and media reports we've corroborated, the classified briefings began in the spring of 2002 and dealt with the interrogation of Abu Zubaydah, a high-value al Qaeda operative captured in Pakistan. In succeeding months and years, more than 30 Congressional sessions were specifically devoted to the interrogation program and its methods, including waterboarding and other aggressive techniques designed to squeeze intelligence out of hardened detainees like Zubaydah.

The briefings were first available to the Chairmen and ranking Members of the Intelligence Committees. From 2003 through 2006, that gang of four included Democrats Bob Graham and John D. Rockefeller in the Senate and Jane Harman in the House, as well as Republicans Porter Goss, Peter Hoekstra, Richard Shelby and Pat Roberts. Senior staffers were sometimes present. After September 2006, when President Bush publicly acknowledged the program, the interrogation briefings were opened to the full committees.”

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123120464870255997.html