David Horowitz, and Dick Morris have in common?

A: something this bunch never will.

We all realize we might as well be speaking different languages, do we not?

Meanwhile, following the law of diminishing returns,what started as an impressively intelligent discussion has degenerated into troll infestation and juvenile rhetoric. I'm leaving here for some professional commentary, hoping at least some of them know what they're talking about and have actual, you know, news to report.

Yup, you're right. McCafferty was responding to Clinton's being visibly and justifiably very angry at the below-the-belt tactics of the Obama campaign that decided in its infinite lack of ethics and wisdom to distribute thousands of brochures in a fully-Republican fashion, misrepresenting Hillary Clinton's position on health care. Never mind, that Barack Himself then reversed his position and almost xeroxed Hillary's position at a later time. [Hillary was a true pioneer in the early 90s and had sent a team of researchers to Canada to find out why it spent 8% of its GPD as opposed to U.S.' 17.5% on healthcare. She knew there was not a single Canadian who filed for bankruptcy due to....medical bills! And she knew that only the single-payer universality of a healthcare system could offer the best bang for the taxpayer's buck]

The harm done to Hillary's campaign by this blatant act of misrepresentation and slander was done. Anyone BUT a total idiot would have been justifiably angry---but not at the visibly angry Hillary waving the brochures to point out the xeroxed misrepresentation of her own (pioneering in '93) stand on health care. But angry at the Obama Campaign's shamefully dubious tactics for allowing this misrepresentation to occur in the first place at a most critical time in the primary.

And it would only take an Obamyopic moron to refuse to see this more objectively.

When I read that Kristol saying that Palin was resigning to run for president, I was convinced that there's another shoe about to drop. Kristol is consistently wrong about everything.

Joan, you are so obviously afraid of Palin. She is such a force to be reckoned with, get used to it. Obama already seems boring in comparison. Her resignation makes all the sense in the world. She's wasting precious time up there. Let's get to it.

Here’s a real deep dynamic for you to ponder. Try to keep up. The reason why fascist nutjobs get attention from people like us is that there is an alarming number of people in this country willing to listen to spokespeople like Palin, Limbaugh, Malkin, Hannity, Dobson… the list goes on and on. These people don’t care about their fellow man, they are filled with invective and hate. Whoops, forgot to mention GREED. Afraid of paying their fair share of taxes, so married to their usurous business hegemony, so scared of completely non-threatening minorities that they see boogeymen under every bed. You know; gays, Jews, Mexicans , Doctors, liberals, Kool-aid drinkers?

It’s fun to see them discredited, it’s fun to shine a spotlight on their abject ignorance and intolerance. It’s also way cool to watch the moral grandstanders shopping for sex in public toilets, abusing their wives and children, and while preaching fiscal-responsibility, running the richest nation on the planet into bankruptcy through war and reckless military spending, but hooking-up their corporate buddies on the way out the door.

I guess it's just fun to call-out bullies and watch them piss their pants.

--Ahh, the fact is-you fear her and the millions upon millions of Average Americans who agree with the vast majority of her views...

Um... yes, htowner, you're darned right we do! By the same token, of course, every argument you advanced could be applied to you yourself, when you talk about Obama, Clinton, or even any Democrat who, like Palin, came perilously close to attaining office. Why do you talk about them? Because, even though you may feel they're unqualified, you fear them reaching office.

This Sarah Palin, you better believe we fear her, and the fact that there are millions of Average (read: with IQs closer to 100? that is average, right?) Americans who wanted to elect her. A Republican, that's okay, but give us someone intelligent next time, please. These bellowing, anti-intellectual buffoons like Rush Limbaugh have, with Sarah Palin, actually infiltrated the nomination.

If you'd given America someone we could have taken seriously for her mind, then I'm here to tell you, many of us would seriously consider voting Republican, if an election came along when we didn't have a Democrat we could respect. I'm sorry, it's not a name-calling insult--this woman really was too unintelligent and incurious to become the Vice President. You want to run her for President? I mean, there really is no-one you can advance who's not dumb as a two-by-four? Monica Crowley would get my vote before this person. Someone needs to have read a book or two, before becoming President, I'm sorry.

It seems to me that Palin is a woman with consistently poor follow through. I think she was up for the competition but not for the actual work of governing. She has literally lucked her way through life. All I keep thinking is why oh why did John McCain let this Pandora out of her box?

whose handling of the Bonus Marchers cost Hoover the '32 election, who ended up abandoning thousands of his troops to the Japanese army and the Bataan death march, and who pissed off Truman so much that he got fired.

Great choice.

Dugout Doug MacArthur was a good choice: someone who "shall return," tripping up the stairs, failing his way to the top, and somehow convincing people of his competence.

A smart woman doesn't stay in an abusive situation. Dems are in huge denial about the nature of their abuse, behaving as if they aren't complicit (typical of abusers). There are 49 pages of abusive posts, many of them saying, "what abuse is she talking about?"...The type of passionate hatred heaped on Palin is way more curious than Palin's reaction to it, the eeriest part being the apparent Dem justification that Palin really is "wrong and bad," while the posters are apparently right and good. Dems remind me of Tennessee Williams', "Suddenly Last Summer," creepy and devouring toward celebrity. as if Woodstock has evolved into a mindless, angry mob. Tes tres toxic.

Oh how I wish I were a redneck born-again, just to buck the mindless trend.