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Thursday, July 2, 2009 12:00 AM

The Salon story that sparked a Palin-McCain feud

Palin asked McCain staff to lie about her husband's involvement with secessionists, and Steve Schmidt said no

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Friday, July 3, 2009 08:46 AM

Slander?

"..and yet she slandered O'Reilly anyway."

No. O'Reilly accused Ms. Walsh of having "blood on (her) hands". First.

And, as the last thirty seconds of their nationally televised encounter revealed, Ms. Walsh metaphorically dipped an apoplectic and blindsided O'Reilly into a fetid cesspool of humiliation that she facilitated on the spot, flailing away as he marinated in the rhetorical stench helplessly, words failing the notoriously locquacious windbag by reminding him of the previously horrific blood-stained incident of carnage that tangentially soiled him by reports that that particular killer was inspired by the writings of a particular bold fresh piece of humanity.

Slander? As you said previously, Virtue..."laughed right out of court". Kind of like the 2003 O'Reilly/Fox News suit against Al Franken for copyright infringement.

Friday, July 3, 2009 08:38 AM

Palin-McCain feud

This article is a retread of all other Palin character assassination commentary. While reading it I swear I heard a call for "clean up in aisle two" because I felt like I was reading through an article in a trashy tabloid, while waiting at grocery check. It is Joan Walsh's words that preen, boldly, in vapid, whiney, gossip and unsophisticated analysis. The only substantive reflection to gleaned from this article is Walsh's visceral dislike of Sarah Palin. I had hoped for so much more. I will not waste time reading Walsh, again.

Friday, July 3, 2009 08:13 AM

@angrypoodle

"...repeating the mantra "Tiller the Baby Killer" ad nauseum to a presumptively unhinged band of rudderless on the edge psychopaths that undenyably constitute at least a fraction of the Fox News core audience demo yearing for "guidance" is nothing like "evidence"."

Correctumundo, my friend. It IS nothing like evidence. In fact, you'd be laughed out of any court in the country if you tried to say it was.

Reports by the Kansas City Star indicated that Scott Roeder had been a crackpot for many, many years. In fact, he was involved in the "Freeman" militia movement long before the first episode of The O'Reilly Factor ever even aired. Not to mention the fact that Joan didn't even know if Roeder ever watched a single show in the first place. And yet she slandered O'Reilly anyway. Which is why she got exactly what she deserved. And btw, I'm really not an O'Reilly fan. Not that it matters.

Friday, July 3, 2009 07:55 AM

@Yasadon

Get it? The past 8 years never happened and we will not speak of them. This is pretty much the line of Salon's lovely current crop of trolls. But give them the slightest opening and they will scream with astounding vigor "CLINTON! Clinton did it! Everything is the fault of the Clintons!" Bill or Hilary, doesn't matter. As long as they get to scream "CLINTON!" they're happy.

However, mention Bush, Cheney, or any of their cabal . . . well, they don't want to talk about that because if it wasn't the fault of the Clinton's it must be the fault of the Obama's who have been in office, what is it now, less than 6 months?

Engaging the trolls - It's an exercise in futility.

Friday, July 3, 2009 07:33 AM

Todd's AIP ties: So what?

I remember when Todd Palin’s AIP story broke, my first reaction was: So, what? Is Mary Matalin less of a Republican because she is married to the Ragin’ Cajun?

Furthermore, there are many reasons why you might check “Alaskan Independent” as affiliation. In my memory, former governor Wally Hickel was a rather decent chap, having served as Nixon’s Secretary of the Interior and having been the first Cabinet Member to be fired because he did not demonize student unrest against the Vietnam War. He even was far more environmentalist than one might originally have hoped for. While he served as the first Republican (and second ever) Alaskan governor after statehood, he got elected in 1990 a second time on the Alaska Independence Party ticket. He certainly was not a secessionist, and I wonder if that particular item was the reason for his return into the Republican fold at the end of his second term. Therefore, the claim inherent in Steve Schmidt’s response proposal: “Todd loves America” was not necessarily hypocrisy.

Apart from showing little feel for public relations, it says a lot about Sarah Palin’s MOP that instead of commenting: “So, what? Todd is Todd, and Sarah is Sarah” she chose this completely unbelievable and unsellable excuse for Todd’s “independence”.

As to her personal dealings with other AIP members, which indeed was the thrust of the Salon piece it seemed and seems to me far more proof for the intensely personal rather than for the ideological characteristics of small town politics.

Friday, July 3, 2009 07:14 AM

yasadon

obama is President now.

Friday, July 3, 2009 07:02 AM

@ virtue001 & farragut

Did either one of you asked Bill Kristol and co. to report on any of the following:

1) 9/11 attack on our country while the commander in chief ( was in office for 9 months) was reading to per-school kids

2) WMD in Iraq that cost us 4700 american lives

3) Iraq war that bankrupting our treasury for over $1 trillion and counting

4) Banking and financial systems meltdown under the conservative president and congress

5) Gas prices as high as $4.75/gallon while Exxon & co. were reaping $ billions in profits every quarter.

6) Over 3.5 million jobs lost alone in 08 on the “decider” watch

7) Budget deficit of over $1 trillion by the time the “decider” left office ( he inherited a budget surplus of over $3 trillion)

8) Spying on us @ home by wiretapping our phone conversation

9) Torture of pensioners in our custody and never provide them with due- process

10) Nations building overseas while our own infrastructures are crumbling ( bridges, hi-ways, schools, hospitals, etc)

Friday, July 3, 2009 06:52 AM

Virtue sez...

"...tried to link O'Reilly to a murder without a shred of evidence..."

Of course, repeating the mantra "Tiller the Baby Killer" ad nauseum to a presumptively unhinged band of rudderless on the edge psychopaths that undenyably constitute at least a fraction of the Fox News core audience demo yearing for "guidance" is nothing like "evidence".

But it sure sounds ball park on target to me.

Friday, July 3, 2009 06:41 AM

Sober whoever asked...

Why Dr. Tiller should be lauded as a hero for performing "late term abortions"?

Let me answer that.

Anyone who could be there for the 11 year old victim of incestual rape who didn't realize until late in an inconceivable (at least to the child) pregnancy to save her life, both literally and figuratively, when no other medical clinic or clinician could or would, is indeed, in my view...a hero.

Conversely, Soberwhoever...

Until you're ready to advocate the death penalty for the little girl who was raped by her stepfather for "killing" her "baby", as an accessory to murder (since you believe as others of your ilk obviously do, that abortion, whether late term, to save the life of the mother, or for any reason is "murder"...and you hate abortion, but apparantly advocate the death penalty...or let's stipulate life in prison?), or, better yet, willing to adopt the child and her conceived by crime baby into your loving home to nurture and protect until both reach adulthood...don't opine.

It will not stand any sober scrutiny.

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