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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
Play nice :D
Go do something else pleasant or fun for awhile...
As a wise man once said: *Leggo the egoos*
:D
When are your gonna
Get your numb ass off the can?
Just let the shit rip
From here to Tehran..
Or don't.
:D
Every tale you tell
Was first told to you
By the riki tik Tooth Fairy
You're making a mistake referring to "faulty intelligence" leading to the Iraq war. It was a deliberate campaign of disinformation, no mistake involved.
Might only have seven toes
But at least he knows his ass from a hole in the ground
And where bullshit always goes..
Memo to Bush
Re: Your interview with Charles Gibson. Specifically the comment about not selling your soul for politics.
Vada al Inferno.
There's even a 10th ring for you and your ilk.
signed
Dante
I have always contended what the subject (I.E., title) of this comment says. I would be willing to wager that Bush wouldn't be able to stop some of this lasdt-minute crapola EVEN IF HE WANTED TO!
Well, you may think he is delusional, but YOUR Democrats sat on the Intelligence Committee. Isn't that an oxymoron, Democrats on an intelligence committee, and used the same data, the same memos and the same sit-rep documents to make the decision to support the actions of this delusional person that is President.
Ms. Feinstein sits on the committee that provided the intell and low and behold, you claim it was bad intell. Does that mean she was wrong, too? Tell me it cannot be......an error made by the Democrats.....Let us now wait for the Messiah of the civilized world to take office and lead us to the hallowed heights of utopia.
For as long as I've been aware of politics, the left has been ambivelent about the Democrats, and mistrtustful of Clinton in particular. So, Groenhagen is arguing that Clinton and Bush were fundamentally similar on this issue. That's actually a fairly reasonable claim to make.
Hell, Ralph Nader ran for President on that very premise (that's why I voted for himin 2000).
Are memories so short, that people now forget that many on the "extreme left" were strident opponents of Clinton's foreign policy? Forget ariel bombing, in the heady days of my youth, my fellow leftists were protesting the devestating economic sanctions leveled on Iraq. I know, it's almost hard to believe that there was a time in this country when people could be outraged over "indirect violence," but I assure you, I was there.
Hell, I remember very clearly the night I heard about Clinton's missle attacks against Afghanistan and Syria. I was literally jumping up and down and screaming at the news. When I learned the Syrian target was probably a pharmacuticals factory . . .
So, if people want to bitch about Clinton and Obama, they should go right ahead. I've always felt that they were the candidates the Republicans would nominate in a saner alternate universe.
Just don't think that that exonerates Bush. It's not as if wickedness is a limited resource. One politician being bad does not preclude another from being worse.
War is wrong. Political violence is a terrible evil. Anyone who thinks otherwise is my political adversary. Sure, Sadaam got exactly what he deserved, but the God knows how many innocents we had to steamroll to get to him did not.
Ain't my patron saint
But compared to Bush
He's practically great
Mark Denney: "I don't think [Bush] bears nearly as much as Rumsfeld."
WTF does this mean? Is or is not Bush the Commander in Chief?
Groenhagen: "These nutcases like Horseface will say that Clinton did not lie when he said Iraq had WMD, but Bush did when he said Iraq had WMD."
You're a really low, pathetic individual. Not too bright either.
It doesn't matter if Bill Clinton thought Saddam Hussein had WMD in 2001. It doesn't matter what Madeleine Albright thought. It doesn't mean what Billy Bob Parker down at the local 5 and dime thought either.
Your "B-b-b-b-but what about Clinton!?!" argument is meaningless. It doesn't get Bush off the hook for his FAILURE. Nor does it get you off the hook for your moral failure. You are clearly just a mean-spirited, cowardly fool who can't face reality.
The reality is that Bush didn't echo what Clinton said. Bush and his team of professional liars made all-new claims about Saddam's dangers and WMD. They claimed Saddam Hussein had trained Al Qaeda bomb-makers, that Hussein had a relationship with Al Qaeda going back over a decade, that Hussein was on his way to getting a nuclear weapon, and that Hussein was in the process of obtaining new bio- and chemical weapons. Not that Hussein still had the old ones from 1989-1992.
Stop telling lies to support your politics. Stop calling people names because they have more plain sense than you do, too. You're just a lowlife. Grow up.
Groenhagen: "Without the reason, they wouldn't have been in Saudi Arabia. And it was not just the proximity. As I noted before, Clinton dramatically increased the number of boots on the ground in Saudi Arabia."
It appears you have given up on your own argument here. Did you have a point? It seems you lost track of it. Who's the airhead again? You're all gassed up with nowhere to blow.
luangtom: "Ms. Feinstein sits on the committee that provided the intell and low and behold, you claim it was bad intell. Does that mean she was wrong, too?"
Yes, Feinstein was wrong, too. Hillary Clinton was wrong.
Barbara Boxer was right. Robert Byrd was right.
By the way, what exactly is your point? Are you admitting that Bush was wrong, or are you saying Bush was right and so were the Dems who voted in favor of war? Which is it?
My vote is that both Bush and those Dems were wrong. (Incidentally, I am not a Democrat, but it is entirely possible for people to be Dems and still disagree with the way those politicians voted.)
luangtom: "Tell me it cannot be......an error made by the Democrats.....Let us now wait for the Messiah of the civilized world to take office and lead us to the hallowed heights of utopia."
Wow, you're real original there, aren't you?
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