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Wednesday, December 3, 2008 12:00 AM

The buck stops where?

Our delusional president laments the "intelligence failure" that identified nonexistent WMD in Iraq and admits he was "unprepared" for war.

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  • Thursday, December 4, 2008 07:31 AM

    @Groenhagen

    Groenhagen: "I provided sources that show Horseface lied. And now, he you add additional lies. The case against Iraq was not based on forged documents.

    http://www.factcheck.org/article222.html"

    Okay, first, what sources showed that Walsh "lied"? What EXPLICITLY was the lie? You didn't answer the question. GIVE A QUOTE AND SHOW HOW IT IS AN ACTUAL LIE.

    Second, when you say "forged documents," do you even know what is being referred to? I am not talking about the forged Italian documents regarding yellowcake from Niger. I am talking about THIS:

    http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1008766.html

    Third, you gave a link to a Factcheck article from 2004. Factcheck was hardly a paragon of credibility at that point, and it's not the last word on these matters. There's plenty of evidence to suggest that the CIA knew full well that the uranium/yellowcake claim was doubtful at best prior to Bush's speech in 2003.

    Groenhagen: ""Cherry-picked" evidence? As I showed above, both Hillary Clinton and John Edwards admitted that the evidence was consistent from Clinton to Bush. Therefore, are you saying that Clinton also cherry-picked the evidence?"

    Your point is lost here. Clinton and Edwards were not bucking to start a war. They were bucking to save their own butts politically in case of war. I don't have much respect for either of them. To me they're as bad as Britney Spears when she said, "I think we should all just trust the president."

    You keep referring back to Clinton/Edwards as if it somehow absolves Bush of everything. How so? Did Clinton/Edwards have full access to all the information about WMD? I mean, besides the NIE? I don't think so.

    Groenhagen: "If so, I assume that you disagree with Horseface's contention that Hillary was an excellent choice for SoS."

    I don't recall anybody saying anything about Hillary Clinton in this current column. The entire column is about Bush. You have a great big hard-on to change the subject, don't you? It seems you just can't be bothered to stick to one topic at a time. Divert, divert, divert.

    This is my impression of you: "Bush did something that didn't work? B-b-b-b-but what about Bill Clinton???? And b-b-b-b-b-but what about Hillary? And b-b-b-b-but what about Saddam gassing Kurds in 1989? That was b-b-b-b-bad!"

    Lame wingnut.

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