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On "Hardball" he doesn't know the name of the Iraq veteran whose story he's using to back the war.
  • @Really Stupid Jerk I, II & III - Friday, August 24, 2007 10:36 PM

    You have posted here 3 times.

    Now Pay Attention:

    Really Stupid Jerkoff I:

    “Much Ado About Nothing:

    I don't for a minute believe that its not important that this soldier is a real person with a real name and life. But is it really significant that Ari Fliescher didn't happen to know the name? Out of all the things that could possibly be criticized about Fleischer, people take issue with this and his use of the "calvary" cliche? When someone harps on insignificant tripe like this, it just undermines their credibility in the times when they actually have important and relevant points or discussions to make. It just seems petty and irrelevant and a missed opportunity to highlight or discuss something that might actually be important.”

    Although you posted this gem twice (concerned your sagacious “contribution” might be overlooked?); I’ll count it as one.

    This post is so condescending and obtuse that it actually warrants no response on its merits. If you think that Fleischer’s callous revelation that he was unaware of the name of the person he’s using as a prop in this despicable ad is “insignificant” or “irrelevant”, then you are truly unworthy of engagement on any intellectual level. Just google “Ari name kriesel” and then read some of what comes up. Clearly, the people at Salon are not the only ones who were offended by Ari’s ignorance.

    Okay, that was your first post on Salon. Most readers here, I’m sure, were willing to cut you some slack. That wasn’t a problem even though you go on to imply that the focus on “insignificant tripe like this” detracts from the ability to “have important and relevant points or discussions”. It did seem curious, however, that after that little pearl, you then contributed nothing “important” to the discussion in that post. Most did not react.

    But, as is true in any public discussion forum, not everyone is mannerly and genteel in dealing with pretentious posts or pointing out errors posted. This is usually directly proportionate to the degree of stupidity in the post and sometimes includes addressing spelling, grammar and syntactical “transgressions” by the poster. That would be Garry Owen’s “nimrod” advice to you about the spelling of “cavalry”, after which you responded to that post and another post from Garry (the FerrIgamo entry) with:

    Really Stupid Jerkoff II:

    “Nimrod?

    To paraphrase yourself, "It's FERRAgamos, nimrod. Not FERRIgamos." But should pointing out typos really be a relevant part of an intelligent discussion? And if you don't have something relevant to say, why say anything at all?”

    So after pontificating about “missed opportunity to highlight or discuss something that might be actually important”, you chose to engage in truculence with another Salon poster on something you’ve already conceded is irrelevant. You have now demonstrated not only obtuseness, but a thin skin as well. Really getting off to a good start towards engagement in discussion about “important” matters. At that point, I admit I was still aggravated by what you said in your first post and couldn’t resist any longer. Hence, my posts as represented in these permalinks:

    A)http://letters.salon.com/opinion/walsh/iraq_war/2007/08/22/fleischer_again/permalink/8c348b7ff4fccf96d65d31324f5f6861.html

    B)http://letters.salon.com/opinion/walsh/iraq_war/2007/08/22/fleischer_again/permalink/8c348b7ff4fccf96d65d31324f5f6861.html

    And Garry’s post per this permalink:

    http://letters.salon.com/opinion/walsh/iraq_war/2007/08/22/fleischer_again/permalink/754d18a44680a03cbd81fe5a77b73131.html

    That resulted in:

    Really Stupid Jerkoff III:

    “Jackass I and II

    WTF? Are you kidding me? Your beef is that I mis-typed "calvary"? Which is asinine to begin with, but then you get bent when your own typo is sarcastically pointed out, and defend it with your marginally-veiled homophobic quip? Don't know why you're so sure I'm male, but if I am, it goes without saying that I'm not half the tough-guy you are.

    And what's Mosby's problem? Not sure how you could read all of the postings and then jump on my ass, but at least you're bright enough to spell "Vince" without my help. Thanks for helping me realize that harping on typos and misspellings *are* an important part of any discussion. I'd thank Garry to, but odds are, you're the same jackass.

    You both(?) just confirm why discussion in a public forum like this is usually not worth the effort. Freakin' ridiculous. The threads all yours, feel free to "Springer" it all up, I'm sure there are just the one/two of you left.”

    I can’t speak for Garry (my alleged alter ego/clone in this diatribe); but I did read all the postings and stand by what I posted. Salon is a forum for ideas and fearless exchanges. Not just empty posturing and condescension devoid of actual content. You still think your feedback is about spelling and typos, don’t you? I thought EVEN YOU might be capable of actually contributing something useful to this thread. Sometimes goading helps. Obviously, I was wrong. If “jump(ing) on (your) ass” means intolerance for lecturing others that what they think is insignificant and irrelevant while demonstrably FAILING to contribute anything significant, relevant OR important, then I plead guilty.

    Don’t let the door hit you!!