luminesce, yes, blessed are the peacemakers! Happy Thanksgiving to you and weeping and gehgoeson and klytus and Faulkner Jr. and especially Faulkner Jr.'s father. And New York, NY, as well. I don't think anybody's going to change anyone's mind here tonight, so I hope people treat one another with kindness.

salonmarte, thanks for being here, I hope you have a peaceful and calm holiday, and let us know how you are. I'd like to extend your Premium membership as my holiday gift to you. Happy Thanksgiving!

The strictest liberals...

Dominate the comedy circuits.

Nice generalisation though, I am sure it helps you get over voting Bush twice.

this has no use to your point, which in warm, kind spirited and laudable, but it would be nice to have a sitting president who isn't getting his Foster Brooks on right now. I know it wouldn't change much on the ground in mumbai it would just make me feel better.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/25/bush-drinking-again-downs_n_146453.html

1/20 cannot come fast enough.

One Thanksgiving wish I want to make is to my GoodCelery! He hasn't chimed/rhymed in tonight, but I don't want him to be forgotten. He brings thankful times many days of the year.

Don't take life so seriously. You'll never get out of it alive.

Liberals and conservatives

Any staunch doctrinares extrordinare

In their tiny little cramped rooms

Cramped as they are

In their narrow little views

Are people for whom I have no real appreciation

Or use

If a person cannot think or opinionate

Outside the particular box to which they're bound

And boxed in

Klytus cannot call this type person

A very much enlightened hombre or friend

I mean shit

Look what narrow livin' and breathin' and furtively believin'

Got Osama bin Laden

The dude can't see past the hem of his own dishdasha

He fancies himself an Islamic ideolouge

A religio-political top man and hot shit political Pasha

Likes to be the star in all his videos

Like a self made political ham

If ya can't jack yourself out of a box

Then you've probably got a head

That's chock full of rocks

A lie doesn't become truth with repetition - no matter how much you would like it to. Again, the leftwing for the last eight years has dominated in comedy. Al Franken, Colbert, Tina Fey, all very leftwing, all very strong comedians.

The Onion, Something Awful, SNL, all very leftwing, all very strong comedy venues.

The guy behind "Family Guy?" Yeah, he's a lefty.

The nearest thing to a successful political comedy the rightwing has is South Park, and that isn't actually rightwing it is Libertarian.

And somehow I don't think that the liberal side of the fence would dominate Hollywood if we didn't know how to make people laugh.

I am an Obama supporter and made sure to vote early. I blogged to almost insane lengths against the McCain campaign. I'm grateful that Obama will be president soon.

But to in any way say this makes you feel better about Mumbai is just to be another blinkered American that can only see things through that lens.

How arrogant. How dare you. Even if Obama were in office, how could he do anything about this?

This is an Indian tragedy. Obama has no bearing on it, nor do our elections. And you're trivializing it by implying it does.

God, Joan. Write this shit out in longhand before you type it. It might save you some embarrassment.

That people can be pretty precious about shit

Which I think is pretty true and astute

Sometimes people

Are so cute I could puke

But see

As I see it

Humor and Comedy have no official political stripe

If humor must manitorily be "owned" by a particular wing or

party

You're probably just blowin' smoke up your ass

And fillin' it up with too much smug hype

Back in Cairo

Humor is seen as a way for folks to cope

When the fates seem furiously unfriendly

Humor gives you good times, mirth, laughter

And most significantly

Strength and good hope

The thing is: What you are saying basically isn't true.

It is like the claim that atheists can't do art (Because evidently George Eliot never existed) and can't do comedy (Because evidently Douglas Adams never existed either.)

The leftwing tends pragmatic, we see something that doesn't work, we laugh at it (Which is one of the main criticisms behind the "Hater" label, we snark pretty damned effectively) and then we propose a solution to it.

The problem with the leftwing is that the far left voices you hear aren't the super-serious pundits, it is that those voices are generally comedians and entertainers, people whose bread and butter is comedy.

Heck we want Al Franken in the Senate.

We have this fallacy of moderation, which is outright stupid in ways which are both hilarious and problematic, where if you are "Far left" in America (Which essentially means being in favour of much the same policies which are taken for granted in every other first world country) you are somehow accused of being humourless - by the side of the aisle that seems to think of being wished a "happy holiday" as being horrible religious repression.

Because we all know the emperor has no pants but hey, he has a really snazzy shirt.

I mean, remember Chocolate Jesus? A bunch of people who believe that they eat Jesus every Sunday got miffed at Jesus being represented by a food-stuff.

The far right, on most issues, is hillarious. Humourless, but funny as heck. If they weren't, the leftwing, including the far left, wouldn't have survived this long. Tom Tomorrow is an example of a far leftwing webcomic, it is one of the brighest spots of this last eight years.

One can criticise the far left for a lot of things, but a lack of a sense of humour isn't one of them.

You come on as narrow to the marrow...

Maybe I come off a little strong

But its not my fault you are wrong