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Thursday, September 4, 2008 12:00 AM

A pit bull in lipstick?

A snarling Sarah Palin savages Barack Obama while her defenders deride sexism and "liberal media" bias.

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Thursday, September 4, 2008 06:59 PM

Joan

Do you let the likes of whatever365 use such abusive and terrible language on your blog? She knows nothing about Sara Palin and where do you people get off judging anyone? Are you so perfect that you can stand in judgment of her or anyone else. I thought this blog was supposed to be about issues.

Like jeb, I'm outa here.

Thursday, September 4, 2008 07:07 PM

pegster

I thought this blog was supposed to be about issues.

Pubs don't do issues. Pubs 'catapult the propaganda'. Remember?

Pubs avoid issues like the plague because they know most voters disagree with them on the issues. Besides, McCain can't get his facts straight and Palin hasn't been told what her positions are yet.

Thursday, September 4, 2008 07:26 PM

I'm no pundit, but much of whether McCain/Palin will win..

..depends much upon the importance of the primate vote to the election this November.

You have a scenario where we may be able to endeavor on beyond 2001 a space odyssey, into the future of the human adventure...

or still:

We could still see a scenario where the fist flying, breast beating, conflict continues on, in that epic eternal struggle of battle and conquest for the planet of the apes...

Insert the ending to this story in your ballot box in about two months.

Thursday, September 4, 2008 07:37 PM

@ChuckieP

Boy, are you an idiot. So CBS lied, and I lied through them? Did the other poll cited by another poster also lie?

You're a paranoid, delusional twerp, and your illusions are about to hit the wall like a tomato fired at a steel wall by a cannon.

The polls are real. The results are real. Only your reaction is artificial.

The next time you call someone a liar, make sure they actually lied, asshole.

Thursday, September 4, 2008 07:41 PM

"the librul media"

is as accurate a phrase as "a pitbull with lipstick."

Thursday, September 4, 2008 07:46 PM

Militarist monkeys

Are back on the march.

Thursday, September 4, 2008 07:49 PM

@welcomerain

My problem with your poll comes in because it is only a ramdom sampling of potential primate voters. What about just a regular people poll?

Thursday, September 4, 2008 08:06 PM

Eight Point Lead

Welcomerain: Gallup still shows Obama with an 8-point lead over McCain. Read it and weep.

Thursday, September 4, 2008 08:40 PM

@NYShooter: 1964 From Citizens to Consumers

Big topic. I think there are a lot of reasons why our IQ is dropping and we have increasingly transistioned from citizens to consumers. Part of it is the decline in the written word and the rise of the visual media. It's also because an increasing sense of entitlement to the fruits of our Empire. Our marketing is based upon instant gratification and that happiness is found chiefly through material possessions.

I don't really put a tinfoil hat on this one. I think the laws of unintended consequences are at work, and it's just human nature to get lax and sloppy when you're at the top of the heap. Of course there are many who benefit from the current situation, but that doesn't mean they are in control or understand the likely outcome of their behavior.

Thursday, September 4, 2008 09:05 PM

@uncle fester

Yeah, the tinfoil gang is out to lunch on this one, I agree. And I don’t think our aptitude (I.Q.) has changed so much, but the achievement part, Yuck! Just read some posts here…nothing more need be said. Even that isn’t rocket science to explain either. It’s just a continuation of the deterioration of virtually all aspects of our society.

You know unc, the whole thing is just so depressing. The solutions are really so simple, but like the decision to lose weight or build muscles, we KNOW what to do, but lethargy is a sinister and powerful force, and we simply don’t have the will to do it.

It’s like sitting at the bedside of a terminally ill patient, watching and knowing each day will be like yesterday, just a little bit worse.

I guess that’s why this election is so incredibly frustrating. The partisans on each side are simply not cognitively equipped to make rational, deductive decisions.

Well, ole buddy, the world will just have to wait another day or two for you and me to save it from itself. I hope these folks here appreciate what we’re doing for them.

G’nite

Thursday, September 4, 2008 09:13 PM

Uncle Fester

I think there are a lot of reasons why our IQ is dropping and we have increasingly transistioned from citizens to consumers. Part of it is the decline in the written word and the rise of the visual media. It's also because an increasing sense of entitlement to the fruits of our Empire. Our marketing is based upon instant gratification and that happiness is found chiefly through material possessions.

Work that one through.

The evidence suggests that corporatist power politics deliberately cultivates personal and political irresponsibility in the US population, and has done so more systematically and with increasing sophistication for over a hundred years. Taken to its logical conclusion, this trend results in a totalitarian US, in whole or in pieces, almost inevitably, and within only a few years.

Democracy, which has grown up in the last three hundred years, represents, with its emphasis upon individual responsibility and individual actions, the most difficult societal system, requiring a definite human maturity. Totalitarianism and especially fascism can in many ways be regarded as an escape from this difficulty into the irresponsibility of following a leader who deprives the people of their liberty and their maturity but promises them 'security' and 'economic progress'. To that end, personal immaturity and self-gratification are therefore celebrated and promoted by corporate America in particular, and in U.S. culture in general, because it prepares the electorate to give up its responsibility to maintain democracy in favor of totalitarian leadership.

Totalitarian Neoconservatism

The neocons have publicly promised to do this, and so far they've been slowed down only by setbacks resulting from their own hubris, but only slowed down.

Thursday, September 4, 2008 09:38 PM

@Godot: In the end, Tyranny

It's a Republic, if we can keep it. The Framers were well aware of the fate of all prior Republics. They went to great lengths to control and limit the concentration of power because they understood that power always seeks to accrue more power to itself.

I have no doubt that there are groups of people out there seeking to manipulate others for their own gain. That's human nature. History has shown the rise and fall of many of these groups, even within our own short history. But these groups are shaped even as they shape others. And to the extent that we acquiesce and go along is our own choice. The buck stops here with each one of us, even if there is a wormtongue whispering in our ears.

And while the current karmic progression of the fate of this country may not look promising, there is always free will. There is no fate. There is no judgement day. Yet.

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