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Thursday, September 4, 2008 12:00 AM

A pit bull in lipstick?

A snarling Sarah Palin savages Barack Obama while her defenders deride sexism and "liberal media" bias.

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Wednesday, September 3, 2008 09:34 PM

Palin = Giuliani

Rudy Giuliani was the perfect person to introduce Sarah Palin. They are both cut from the same mean-spirited, nasty, high-school bully cloth.

Naturally we can say this about Giuliani but it's sexist when we say it about Sarah Palin.

Unless of course you're not intimidated by mean-spirited, nasty, high-school bullies.

Wednesday, September 3, 2008 09:34 PM

If SHE gets elected vp

I am totally blaming Salon and Joan Walsh and the other concern trolls, although this article is a step in the right direction. Where were the facts during the primaries? Anyway, does anyone now buy the idea that there is no difference between Obama/Biden and McCain/Palin? Am I the only one that lived through 2000 and got fooled into voting for Nader?

Wednesday, September 3, 2008 09:36 PM

It was like a permission slip to attack her

John Podhertz at Commentary/Contentions actually had the gall to compare this speech to Obama's 2004 convention speech. Crazy. This speech was dark, angry, hostile, and confrontational. Obama's uplifting and inspiring.

The good news is that Palin graciously took the gloves off and invited all kinds of opprobrium in return. Obama will characteristically rise above it (as he should; she's not worth any oxygen), but it's time to take it back to them. May each lie be debunked and called out, may all the negativity be emphasized, may the undecideds see a clear picture of four years with this kind of nastiness, and may we all just hammer away on the following: nasty, negative, dark, angry, hostile. The new Republican brand.

Wednesday, September 3, 2008 09:36 PM

@lolcait Aren't you the one quoting this?

Now:
Barack Dukakis is Finished The community organizer isn't tough enough to be president. He's over.

Then:
[...] He said they have bought into a narrative that Obama is strictly a reformer. The truth, Kass says, is that he is a bare-knuckled politician. And using the rules to win his first office is part of who Obama is.

permalink: http://letters.salon.com/news/feature/2008/05/30/dnc_meeting/permalink/81ad63de2e68b9ed105bdc6eba0add1e.html

Will Obama bring a knife to a gunfight? Stay tuned.

Wednesday, September 3, 2008 09:36 PM

There are tons of versions of the old pitbull/lipstick line...

sort of odd to hear it coming from a woman since they tend to be tossed out in a denigrating fashion. Some fool on another thread thought she had come up with the line herself -- amusing.

This was a red meat speech with a rather nasty tone to it. I'm looking forward to the continuing cries of sexism (Cindy McCain was on her high horse today about it) in the context of Gov Palin's delivery. She's (and her surrogates) are going to find out that she can't have it both ways. I am looking forward to someone calling her on this bridge to nowhere falsehood.

And the dig at Obama's community organizing may backfire --- way too broad a brush there.

As a long time independent I still find this choice for VP to be terribly cynical and frankly, selfish. McCain could have done better than this and should have.

Wednesday, September 3, 2008 09:37 PM

Citing Byron York's look-see into the National Enquirer Story

So the Enquirer gets the Edwards story right and now Salon is indirectly citing them as a credible source?

What's next ? The "Bat Boy" endorses Obama ?

Will you cite "The Rude Pundit" ?

If Palin bonked somebody, it belongs in the Enquirer, not on Salon

Wednesday, September 3, 2008 09:39 PM

I am firm, you are obstinate, she is a pig-headed fool

So when Biden goes on the offensive, it's fine. When Palin does the same, it's wrong.

When Biden's kids commit offenses as adults, it's never mentioned. When Palin's daughter gets pregnant and intends to marry the father, it's a scandal. (Presumably it would have been unworthy of publication if John Edwards had been the father...)

It's all about whose ox it getting gored, isn't it, Joan?

Wednesday, September 3, 2008 09:39 PM

So awful in so many ways...

The DNC convention was a love-fest but it was also competent and focused. They attacked Bush and McCain, but on legitimate and defensible grounds.

The RNC is a hate-fest. They attack based on half-truths, innuendo and sarcastic, Rush-Limbaugh-style jibes. It's chock full of ugly.

Ugh... If I were a Republican I would hide my face in shame.

Wednesday, September 3, 2008 09:39 PM

Pay no attention

I knew they would pull this one.

Sarah Of The People.

The hardscrabble working family of grassroots America.

Pay no attention to McCain's jet, seven houses, billionaire trophy wife.

We are the Party of the People. Just like you.

Wednesday, September 3, 2008 09:41 PM

I didn't watch it

But did she at least thank Obama for graciously defending her the other day, or was it all mean spirited, high school snark?

Wednesday, September 3, 2008 09:42 PM

Message to Hillary Clinton and her supporters.

Please do not let this bitter, nasty, snarky, cynical, pit bull in lipstick, polar bear hating, Queen of earmarks and oil drilling, steal the Clinton legacy.

Wednesday, September 3, 2008 09:42 PM

@Uncle Fester

Will Obama bring a knife to a gunfight? Stay tuned.

Corrupt isn't the same as tough.

Wednesday, September 3, 2008 09:43 PM

Fact Check

She should have used fact check before she read that speech.

She did not use the chef becuase she never moved into the Gov. Mansion, she did not want to move so she worked out of Anchorage. I hope the media does not let themselves be bullied with cries of sexism.

Wednesday, September 3, 2008 09:45 PM

So now Community organizer is an insult.

Twist the magnificent call to help our fellow ciizens into a snarky insult? This is beyond the pale. Who is really better for our country.... mean spirited Rush Limbaugh types---bloated hate spewers---or community organizers?

A terrible regresion by the Republicans. A sickening night.

Wednesday, September 3, 2008 09:46 PM

She and Rudy did what they were supposed to do.

They fired up the base.

No, Obama shouldn't attack her. He should ignore her. Attacking her -- if it even needs to be done -- is what Biden is for.

As long as Obama maintains his lead, he should treat Palin as if she is scarcely worthy of notice. Why risk a backlash when ahead?

Moreover, if the Enquirer actually finds real evidence about an "affair," she will be gone immediately. Why waste ammo on a target who will take herself out?

Wednesday, September 3, 2008 09:46 PM

Palin clearly has no idea what a community organizer does ...

... but then, she doesn't know what the Vice President does, either, so it all balances out.

Wednesday, September 3, 2008 09:48 PM

Sexism

She'll never be able to cry sexism again

Yes, she will, and in many cases it will be warranted, and Joan, you should defend Palin when the attacks are simply based on her gender, just as anyone should defend Obama when attacks are simply based on his race.

Lines of attack such as "if there's an emergency at 3am and one of her kids is really sick, which gets attention" is sexist. It's not even debatable. It's a question that would NEVER be asked about a man.

This doesn't mean all attacks can be parried as sexist, but those that are should still be condemned by all who oppose sexism.

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