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Monday, August 25, 2008 12:00 AM

It's Obama time!

Hillary Clinton released her delegates, and the party is coming together behind its new leader. Reasons to celebrate and reasons to worry in Denver.

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Sunday, August 24, 2008 07:44 PM

Technical difficulty on the video, or is it just me?

I am getting no sound.

Sunday, August 24, 2008 08:08 PM

Why such a worry-wart?

His pick of Biden was careful, meticulous, and extremely thoughtful. Did you read the NYTimes article into what went into that process? I prefer a candidate that would rather do something measured and thoughful and RIGHT and ignore the press and the polls for a few days.

Biden is a fantastic choice, a perfect compliment. I saw how psyched Ed Rendell was yesterday on MSNBC...Joe's from Scranton and can straight talk like the best of them in PA, Mi, in all the rust belt spots.

What a team...I'm really psyched now!

Sunday, August 24, 2008 08:09 PM

Walsh on Biden

Well, let's get this out of the way:

Walsh: "I was happy enough with the Biden pick."

Why the past tense? Also, "happy enough" reminds me of Obama referring to Hillary Clinton as "likable enough." (Actually, I can't remember him saying that or what the context was, but Clinton supporters sure like bringing that up.) "Happy enough" sounds pretty lukewarm, but that's okay, at least you don't hate him.

Walsh: "Though I'm not crazy about his positions on bankruptcy and credit issues or hardline drug laws..."

I would like to hear somebody expand on this, and also to show how his votes/positions compare to other Democrats (including Obama, Clinton, Dodd, and other candidates). Anybody with a link, or with that info at their fingertips, please help us out. Didn't Hillary Clinton take a similar position on bankruptcy?

Walsh: "I love the fact that he doesn't have many houses or a lot of money..."

I am not sure he loves that fact, but it does contrast well against McCain. It also makes him a better fightin' choice than $500-millionaire Kerry or 19-bathrooms Edwards, not to mention $109-millionaire (give or take about $23 million in debt) Clinton.

Walsh: "...he's got a working class background, and he's a fighter."

"Working class" is an adjective so it should be hyphenated. Just messing with you. But seriously, I am surprised you didn't say that you were happy to have a Catholic candidate, since you have often written about your Catholicism, Walsh. Any comments on that? Or does it not matter to you? (It doesn't matter to me...)

Walsh: "Yes, I'd have preferred Hillary Clinton, but that decision is history."

This is interesting for you to say, Walsh, because you never really came clean about whether or not you were strongly in Hillary Clinton's camp or not. All along you claimed neutrality. So it's funny to hear you admit this now, as if it were taken for granted.

Walsh: "The big question was why Obama waited so long to pick someone as predictable as Biden, who could have been helping him hammer McCain on his homes all week."

If Biden was so predictable, why did people have such a hard time accurately making that prediction? Even hours before the announcement, people were calling it for Bayh.

(By the way, feel free to delete my first comment. This sound card stinks.)

Sunday, August 24, 2008 08:14 PM

@hutman

It must be just you, without being rude, I'm the dude, who watches the tube.

Sunday, August 24, 2008 08:18 PM

Keep the focus Joan

Talk about Hillary more. It totally doesn't make you look irrationally bitter.

Seriously, all other arguments aside, isn't the way she completely mismanaged her campaign indicative enough she wasn't right for the job? Let it go. For your own dignity's sake, don't talk about Hillary during Obama's inauguration ceremony.

Sunday, August 24, 2008 08:19 PM

Klytus

Hey dude you're not rude, my sound card poo'ed so my ears are nude.

Sunday, August 24, 2008 08:36 PM

@hutman

My brain musta taken a nap, I never watch that network, circlejerk, mainstream media, punditocracy crap.

Sunday, August 24, 2008 08:37 PM

hurt

It wouldn't hurt for Barak Obama to have a few friends for a week. Get on board the go train MS Walsh and quit the concern parsing.

The Hillary wake is a potential killer you keep on feeding it (often with good intentions) but the real project is about saving America and the world. Get on board little children get on board!

This is not now about the Clintons or outraged poor losers. I am seeing a really ugly convention that doesn't get what is at stake.

Sunday, August 24, 2008 08:44 PM

Good video....more, please?

Not a bad little video interview. I look forward to future videos like this from Walsh and whoever else is at the convention.

Sunday, August 24, 2008 08:47 PM

Joan, you missed the point

It is a magnanimous gesture on her part. Teddy Kennedy, the man who will be lionized at the same convention as a Democratic icon didn't do it for President Carter. Hart didn't do it for Mondale. The sainted Reagan never did it for President Ford. Had a man been in this position, with so many votes would there have been this outcry for them to give in and not have a roll call? I don't think so. A man is the warrior champion. He would be expected to fight to the finish at the convention defeating a worthy opponent, while a woman, she still has to pay the traditional role as peacekeeper. Poor Hillary, its got to be bittersweet for her especially when you realize that at her age, like Teddy Kennedy she might never get this chance again. So is the role in sex and gender in history.

Sunday, August 24, 2008 08:50 PM

Even the Genuine Hardcore Hillary Supporters (ie. Not Republican trolls) like Biden

Yeah, the tiny minority of them that aren't McCain/Limbaugh operatives or psychotic misandrists have expressed approval of Biden.

I don't really know what the cause nor would I venture to guess but I'm happy they're happy.

Lets roll up our sleeves...Obama/Biden '08! Go Dems!

Sunday, August 24, 2008 08:51 PM

@rnostbakken

There are many peculiar potentialities in life, perhaps certain attendees to the convention, will introduce an element of militance and spite.

It'll certainly be interesting.

Sunday, August 24, 2008 08:54 PM

Clinton as VP?

only if Chelsea's Obama's official food-tester (not my line, from someone on DailyKos)

There is too much overlap between Obama and Clinton in terms of demographics - may people (white males) who are border line about voting for a black are largely also borderline about voting for a woman. that group's got to be whittled into, so you're stuck with a white male as VP.

i have trouble forgiving Biden's conduct of the Anita Hill complaint during the Thomas confirmation hearings.

i don't like his statements stereotyping South Asians as running 7-11 franchises any more that I liked Hillary's stereotyping them as running filling station franchises

Biden also revealed himself to be a basically incompetent attorney during the Bork confirmation hearings.

Biden's record on credit card issuers v. consumer issues is horrible, as Joan Walsh suggests

That said, he's sort of likeable, intelligent and willing to get ugly.

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