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Friday, August 8, 2008 12:00 AM

Whew!

Bill Clinton will reportedly have a speaking role at the Denver convention. Can someone explain why that was ever in question?

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Friday, August 8, 2008 11:22 AM

As soon as Obama removes his shroud

I'll remove mine.

By the way he opened the Bill Clinton pandora's box by smearing him with the racist label.

Going to be kind of hard to get Bill back in the box now isn't it?

Friday, August 8, 2008 11:23 AM

Klytus, I'm not shouting "Yes we can". It's you and all your mates who are in the CANNING BUSINESS

In general, you'd be more interested in fruit/s, I think, as nuts have a longer shelf life.

Your friend 007 or whatever he calls himself isn't around today. Montezuma's Revenge can be very unsettling, it's said, and it did seem to have been a worry of his yesterday evening. Klytus, you could never be demure because of your propensity to use rude words but you should tell Auntie Cairo about the time you were a camel jockey. You should also clarify that Cairo is hot and dusty, as Auntie seems to think that it's cool.

Friday, August 8, 2008 11:25 AM

Excellent article Joan

I am surprised that you think it can't happen...Barack picking Hillary as VP. The way they have left the Clinton's swinging in the breeze, the only way I can see to achieve true party unity is if he does pick her. I will still vote for Obama, but I cannot imagine donating any money or having the type of enthusiasm as I did in the primaries if he doesn't pick her. There is nobody in the democratic party that will generate the enthusiasm that she would as his pick. I mean, who ever heard of Tim Kain or Kathleen Sebelius? We've heard of Evan Bayh(a little) and Joe Biden, but c'mon. 18 million people already proved they want to vote for her. None of those others are going to net him anything approaching what she would. I still think they are letting us think it won't be her and then right at the convention he will introduce her as his running mate. The crowds will go crazy. Everyone will be so surprised and Obama will say "Why are you surprised? I told you she would be on anybody's shortlist, and look how many votes she got. You shouldn't be surprised."

Friday, August 8, 2008 11:25 AM

A pox on the box

Let bygones be bygones

And after the fox

Friday, August 8, 2008 11:29 AM

Hillary

Going to be kind of hard to get Bill back in the box now isn't it?

It's in Hillary's best interest for Bill to be civil. She can be/is a powerful well connected Senator, has a strong place in the party and might very well be on the majority side of the aisle with a Dem president. She's not particulary old either, so it would be dumb to burn, let alone nuke, bridges.

It would be silly for a temper tantrum from Bill to make people lose more faith in him, which only ends up hurting her future.

I feel for Bill, I'm much more combative and eager to take someone on if I feel my husband is being attacked vs. myself. If someone verbally attacks me, I take it with a grain of salt, it's harder if it's aimed at someone you love, someone that has stood by you.

Friday, August 8, 2008 11:31 AM

@dwmulenex

Some, actually, many of the greatest leaders throughout history have been philanderer's. Most of the time the media don't report about it because what a man does in his private life is considered ... well, private. Clinton is not going to be judged on Lewinsky, in spite of the puritanical views of people who probably don't care as much about his indiscretion as they do about using it against him. Clinton will be judged by what he did for the nation and for the world.

The U.S. economy, Bosnia, welfare reform, his charitable actions dealing with AIDS. The Lewinsky scandal and impeachment will be discussed, but in a hundred years they'll only be mentioned in the context of how they were used as political weapons. I suspect that the longest term impact of Bill Clinton's actions won't have anything to do with what he did while in office, but what he is doing now. That foundation, the one that Obama's supporter's have tried so hard to turn into a donor scandal, is doing a huge amount to help reduce and treat AIDS throughout the world, especially in Africa. Other than Jimmy Carter, I can't think of a President who has made as admirable use of his time as Bill Clinton is doing right now.

Friday, August 8, 2008 11:32 AM

Klytus

I know. It's depressing. Hopefully, one day, people will be able to get past their paranoia.

I was working late last night and my boss, who is white, begins to mock a Mexican higher-up at a company we cover--a guy he actually likes and admires.

Using a fake Spanish accent he says: "My name is Jose and I am a big important guy. You know how I got to where I am? By killing the gringos."

I immediately responded: "What is it with white people? They are awfully interested in thinking that the brown and black man are out to get them."

He replys: "I know--it's a top of the foodchain thing; paranoia serves us well."

This from an admittedly liberal, Jewish, white guy. But, then again, he is also a jackass.

Friday, August 8, 2008 11:32 AM

@bgpcola

During a political chat session on washingtonpost.com yesterday, I was struck by the following comment by the reporter that was hosting the session:

"It also underscores the generational divide among Democrats, that goes to the heart of so many of these Clinton tensions. Younger people just don't see the political landscape the way their parents do, and Obama is the first national politician to bring this into clear view. Subconsiously I think a lot of older voters are threatened by this as much as they are influenced by whatever race-related baggage they may be (subconsciously) carrying."

I find this interesting in light of your desire that Obama would kick more butt. I will confess that sometimes, from my perspective, it seems that both parties are overly obsessed with partisan bickering. However, I can also see the point that one can nuance and compromise one's way out of anything relevant. I actually grew to admire Hillary's toughness and refusal to back down, and tend to agree with Joan's point that Obama needs that sort of person as his Veep. Perhaps the nation as a whole isnt quite ready for my generation's approach :).

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