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Friday, August 8, 2008 12:00 AM

Whew!

Bill Clinton will reportedly have a speaking role at the Denver convention. Can someone explain why that was ever in question?

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Sunday, August 10, 2008 02:06 PM

@fightthetheocracy!

"Why can't you let Hillary go? She was never going to be the nominee. For one thing, she is a type A personality. They don't take the back seat well. Second of all, just as many Hillary supporters took the sexism of the media (as in NOT Obama) personally, many Obama supporters took, and still take, Hillary's sense of entitlement personally. We honestly don't beleive that she would work for the best interests of the party or the country. Bill Clinton had little or nothing to do with it"

It is idiocy to think that when a candidate goes through the gruelling primary with its demand and toll the person has a sense of entitlement. Are you kidding me? This is not a situation with a sitting VP trying to get the party's nomination and people refuse to run against the V.P. Hillary and all these candidates went through gruelling campaign and it is ridiculous to charge her with a sense of entitlement.

This is the same crap being thrown around at Fox news cable that Obama feels a sense of entitlement. Stop this childish nonsense.

Sunday, August 10, 2008 01:50 PM

@Little Lord Baltimore

"The obvious (although,still clearly implied) answer is racism. The fact that you did not think it appropriate to pay the same amount of attention to Hagee or to Falwell or as you did to Rev. Wright is troubling for me.

I think that it is odd that in your response to me you did not address my criticism of your coverage of the Ferraro controversy or my criticisms of your using some very faulty polls on compare racism and sexism. For me these issues are as important as the Rev, Wright issue; for me Ferraro was Clinton's Rev. Wright, and yet you never once felt it was important to discuss Ferraro."

I see you sign your name as Ama. I like that name because I know one of the greatest writers to come from Africa is called Ama (Ama Atta-Aidoo) Now, I do not want to come across as defending Joan,she is very capable of defending herself but maybe the reason Joan did not address your criticism of Salon's coverage of the Ferraro controversy was an attempt not to embarrass you. The fact of the matter is she could have told you to look in the mirror and see Ferraro every bit reflected in Little Lord Baltimore. Ferraro saw the differences in coverage between Obama and Clinton and based it on sexism and race with race being by far the most potent factor.The absurdity of the charge is not apparent as the mostly white pundits in the media were apparently favoring a black man over a white woman.

Ipso facto, the accusation by Little Lord Baltimore that Joan is racist because of the differences in Salon's coverage between the black preacher Wright and that of other white preachers like "Hagee or Falwell" The absurdity of this accusation is not apparent as in Rev. Wright's case, he was a mentor and spiritual advisor to Obama for more than 20 years and (gave meaning to Audacity of Hope)and involved at the time albeit vicariously in Obama's campaign. The same cannot be said of Hagee or the late Falwell that McCain only sought endorsement during a political period. I am sure if they have been McCain's spiritual advisors for all these years and attended their churches for a long time then yes the comparison and attention should be warranted. Ironically, they are the same group McCain when running in 2000 called "agents of intolerance" and now for political convenience sought their endorsement.

We need to be very careful in accusing others of racism as it is a higly loaded and powerful label. As an African American, I want the word to be meaningful because of our history rather than thrown about for political differences.

Sunday, August 10, 2008 01:44 PM

Oh and Bill Clinton had a great line.

He said that in the primaries you fall in love, in the general you fall in line. Why doesn't he heed his own good advice?

Sunday, August 10, 2008 01:42 PM

@skeptonomist

And he does have some idea how to win elections.

He used to. He and his wife lost the 2008 race. Being a petulant, egocentric, narcissistic sore loser isn't helping anyone but MCain. And if they think they can Sore Loser their way into the White House in 2012, they have another thing coming.

Sunday, August 10, 2008 11:12 AM

Clintons at convention

A sensible position. Freezing the Clintons out in any way at the convention could be a disaster. I haven't seen any polls lately, but I would be surprised if many Democratic politicians are more popular nationwide than Bill Clinton. And he does have some idea how to win elections.

Sunday, August 10, 2008 10:51 AM

@AnnieW

"Gore (like Dole before him) somehow did come off as wooden. Neither one of them are/were. The cool club kids that make up some of the most widely read and watched pundits didn't like them. Made fun of them. It sucked for Gore, wasn't "fair", but he still did manage to get the popular vote anyway. The rest is history"

You make fair points in response to mine, but you just reiterated the media's take. Notice that Republicans do not listen much to the media either in their choice of V.P or policies. Al Gore comes off as wooden is media's take that forced him then to change and become more of a caricature of himself.

Think about it, the Clintons were the most scrutinized, and villified politicians in a generation yet they are winners--an unknown governor from a small state of Arkansas and a humiliated and villified first lady who became two term senators. You can agree with the media's interpretation of Bill Clinton's performance in the primaries as the basis for the reason Gore was right but that is the media's. I can bet my bottom dollar that if Democrats follow the same scipt it is going to be a long November.

Sunday, August 10, 2008 10:49 AM

There Should be a Hillary Clinton Vote at the Convention.

Voters all over the country voted for her. Her delegates will be there. We should insist that those who believe they are now in control of this “staged” Denver convention or “coronation”, that is the Obama people including Howard Dean and Speaker Nancy Pelosi should realize it's good politics to let them (the Clinton Delegates) "speak" for us by casting the vote WE the voters gave them.

If not, I consider that a problem.

If that were to happen (no Clinton floor vote), let me suggest that all Clinton duly elected delegates meet downtown Denver at some large public square, pass around an attendance roster, and record their votes. Local and national press will cover that and get the word out.

We would like to have that recorded. Thank you.

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