This has ceased to be a website where anyone can find anything of any value.

It is all gnashing of teeth, rending of garments, raging, raging! against the dying of the light. A massive wank-fest, a pity orgy.

Its too bad. How the mighty have fallen.

"As you may recall, back in Jan 08 or so, Obama appeared on S&L and removed his mask on national TV. This is the same Obama that has no problem stealing a nomination (with the help of DNC) that belongs to Senator Clinton. I will not vote for him no as he does not need my "racist" vote. remember he said Hillary supporters were not voting for her but were voting against him because they are racist!!! He should be ashamed of himself. I am glad the rest of the world is seeing Obama in the same light as many of us have seen him for a while now.""

she lost because she loves fox and the gop. She lost because of people like you women. get over it. Get over yourselves. There is zero differance between mccain and clinton, other than healthcare. And she failed on that issue when she had a chance.

Get over it. She is done in american politics. She and her husband made over 100 mill. Let them pay out of their own pockets. It is not owed to her, like the presidency wasn't. You closet republcains are a joke. I thought you wouold be happy. Obama tilting towards clinton. But yrou not. Why? you show you gop fascist faces.

SAd old women. I bet you will complain if obama picks a women as vp, right? You show yrou faces. Your not feminsists. just gop in party sabotuers. You will share their fate. Irrelevance

People who are voting for him are voting for him. Just like people who will vote for the other guy. Just the shitheads who voted for the current monkey. Twice. It doesn't matter. None of this matters. Your system of governance is corrupt and broken and in the sway of more money than you could ever imagine.

How has Obama changed? Not much at all.

The far lefties wanted to GET the telecoms and spend years on litigation. Now the righties are doing exactly what they are doing with the Hillary & women votes. They are trying to make an appearance of division and people baling out out of Obama support.

There are very few people bailing on Obama.

I'm certainly disappointed in Obama here, both in the morality and plain poor judgement of his decision. At the same time, seeing the extreme-I'm gonna vote for McCain even though he's against everything I believe in because Obama isn't perfect--responses of so many progressives, I can't help wondering if it might be a good thing for him to do something so bad at this point. Way too many people have been seeing Obama as some kind of liberal messiah, a prince charming who'll give progressives everything they dream of while floating above the ugly world of politics. But messiahs and fairy tale princes don't get elected president--never have and never will--not because our system is so corrupt (though it is) but because democracy is inherently about making compromises, and often very cynical ones, and nobody who isn't at least a semi-sociopathic egotist would seriously want to be president of the United States. Whoever's going to get elected in November--and I certainly hope it's Obama--is going to be a politician, just like all the presidents before him, just like all the "outsiders" and "mavericks" in the house and senate. That's democracy. That's reality. Grow up and deal with it.

I'm not happy with Obama's vote on FISA. However, I do recognize that Obama is treading the razor's edge in this campaign and like a difficult game of chess, sacrificing some pieces for the sake of victory is a fact of campaigning. I wish he had not chosen to back away from this particular issue considering its Constitutional ramifications but second guessing those strategic decisions is easy, making them is not when so much rides on victory.

My only consolation is that by NOT abandoning our Party and helping Obama to win in November, we'll have at least 4 years to change many things that have gone terribly wrong under Bush -- including FISA. Even Russ Feingold expressed on Countdown last night that he was optimistic that FISA could be revisited under an Obama administration. I've managed to cope with the horror of Bush policies for 7+ years and I can cope with them for another 6 months knowing Democrats will control the White House come January.

Abandoning Obama now over a difficult strategic calculation, however, is incredibly shortsighted and just plain stupid. The criticism from Hillary supporters is especially galling given Hillary's many compromised votes which, I'm sure, she believed were necessary to hold onto her Senate seat.

It's funny how a single vote get's all of these "lefties" all excited, when really, Obama's Vote didn't make this thing pass. He did vote for every one of the mitigating amendments, though they didn't pass.

"I just wonder how many of these comment posters are Republicans and PUMAs."

There are to few puma's to make up all these posts. they would have to be here wouldn't they? unless it's the same bobblehead propogandists. What is it 10% of clinton supporters will vote mccain. keep them gop. They were/are republcains anyway. they may be vocal, but they are far from teh majority of clitnon supporters.

Strange business model joan represents. Less is more I guess. :) If your angry enough.

Blame blame blame. Whien cry and complain. Luie spin and discredit. Does that sound like the gop and their propogandists? Well, I was talking about these puma's, who really are republcains anywho. :)

What a joke/crock. I always wonder who is keeping these people aflout. Who do these people speak for? 9% of the american people? congress's approval is 13% amoung democrats. A democratic congress with 13% amoung it's own people. Who do the joan walsh's of the world represent again?