Since your consistently faulty analysis gets rapidly shot down over in the Greenwald thread, I see you come over here hoping to get some play. You've lost all credibility at this point.

Until gop bobble head joan walsh.

you can take the hope/balls out of the candidate. But not teh movement. It was never obama's to "control". He represents us only as long as he does. when he stops he is just another democratic candidate.

I hear bernbart in reagrds to judges. with two more 40 something gop cronies, they will have the power to shove their fascsim down our throuts.

Until gop bobble head joan walsh.

"Obama's mask coming off

As you may recall, back in Jan 08 or so, Obama appeared on S&L and removed his mask on national TV. This is the same Obama that has no problem stealing a nomination (with the help of DNC) that belongs to Senator Clinton. I will not vote for him no as he does not need my "racist" vote. remember he said Hillary supporters were not voting for her but were voting against him because they are racist!!! He should be ashamed of himself. I am glad the rest of the world is seeing Obama in the same light as many of us have seen him for a while now."

This is well said,as many of us saw through his mask long ago,why do you think we were and are so opposed to him? BUT ,we were called racists as so many Ob and media people labeled us.Don't some of the Ob rock star fans realise this is a very undemocratic thing to stifle people's dissent ?to me just like the abortion issue and women feeling a little blue comment ,seems we heard that about Hillary in his comment that she was a little blue after the primary.YES she was something but i don't think it was blue.

It's more like his buddy Jesse Jackson said and rightfully so , he was being condesending to blacks in his talks .

Are you actually keeping track of the backward stepping OB's done since Hillary left the campaign? Another thing, that will keep us voting for him but then again we did not feel his change message he was putting out there and his fans were swooning about the NEW kind of politician well, well, it sucks to be a fool! wheres the outrage from people that went crazy over bosnia hype and how dishonest Hillary was supposed to be? Well guess what, that only hurt Hillary and not us. the flip flops OB did in the last two weeks DOES hurt all of us and the FISA thing cannot be dismissed saying like some of his sheep ,well it was going to pass anyway ,so just like in his book he said he was a blank slate and he was what people wanted him to be! Is this what we want ,a chameleon?? a coward? go along to get ahead and damn the standards need in a president!

We do have a choice and its the convention and to those that say its not ,they are still being blindsided and will let our country get a president that makes excuses and the sheep follow at all costs, the country be damned. the DNC better wake up and nominate the person that has credentials to run this country and has plans for many of the needs the country has problems with. If the DNC hadn't interferred in the primary process and gave Ob the push to being the selected nominee we would be focusing on issues.do any of you notice the issues get pushed aside and OB always has someone misquoting,dissing him or like the interview ,it was a mistake,of course the favorite you are rasist if you disagree! that is getting old and AA people should see through his using this as an excuse no matter how much they want An AA in office. Powell would have been better as well as any number of AA people qualified and experienced. WAKE UP this one of the most important times in our country life and the constitution be waylaid isn't the way to lead. make the DNC accountable .

Joan,

I always respect, take seriously and most always agree with what you have to say. I understand your concern but if (as I am sure you have) one closely listens and reads what Barack has had to say from early on, I think you find he is mostly a pragmatist but entertains ideals which he frames in an attainable fashion. Democratic and Progressive presidential candidates who have run on ideals have unfortunately, consistently lost. Bill Clinton certainly struck on a few central themes that weren't very ideal for liberals and progressives like welfare to work. In practice the safety net fell miserably short but that's another topic. I think Barack and his campaign have learned how to 'win' the presidential election mostly from our agonizing losses going back to McGovern, Dukakis, and up to Kerry. I think it's kinda too bad it's this way, but it is.

Publicly stating that he would be open to criminal investigations of past Bush conduct and seek even yet, penalties for law-breaking telecoms is an example of how I think Barack will move more progressively should he get elected which is, despite some unpleasant compromises and serious moving to the middle, the immediate goal. That is worth repeating: Barack Obama has to win first and I think everything he does has that in mind. Thank you very much.

Telling true Progressives they have no one else is a big mistake, dangerous, and wrong. Just like the approach being taken, that resulted in one win, and at least 6 losses in the past. There are other viable options:

1. Not voting for President, and vote downticket. The rationale for that would be to get a Dem supermajority, which may keep the President in check, especially McCain, and would not confirm more Scalia's and Roberts' to the SCOTUS. Risk: A Dem supermajority may not behave better than the majority the have now. Right now Obama is certainly NOT reliable about anything, except to promote further wishful thinking. Presumptous rather than presumtive is arrogant.

2. Voting Nader, who now is the strongest voice for true Progressives. Not so much for him, but to support a third party. It has become increasingly clear a third party is needed to break the logjam. Nothing else will get as much attention away from corporate lobbiests. John Edwards or Hillary Clinton running as an Independant would give it immediate cred, altough the chances of that seem slim at present.

3. Revolution-- that will not be televised.... The Founders would be doing it right now, after the FISA vote.

Since it appears Howard Dean want to continue the railroading of Obama, forgoing a first ballot at the convention, and going right to direct nomination, it's very clear the Dems still don't behave like they need anyone outside of the DNC to win the General.

BTW Joan, your Obama's quote was actually inspired by John Edward's positions on that, long before Obama actually had a position on it.