Sorry, but Joan can not vilify every aspect of Obama's campaign, while glorifying Clinton, day after day after day through the primary, and claim, somehow, that she is, or ever was, a supporter of Obama.

Joan can not continue to laundry list everything wrong with Obama, even after he won the primary, while fantasizing what Hillary would have/could have/might have done, and claim, somehow, that she is, or ever was, a supporter of Obama.

After deriding his supporters here at Salon on numerous occasions, Joan can not claim, somehow, that she is, or ever was, a supporter of Obama herself.

After failing to offer evidence that she's done any genuine analysis of Obama (i.e., actually reading and studying his positions, platform, writing and information), preferring instead to glean her knowledge from other blogs and soundbites and media talking points, Joan cannot claim, somehow, that she is or ever was a supporter of Obama.

Joan, you're like a citizen who doesn't vote, and then complains about the candidate who won. You have done NOTHING to support Obama, and everything to help ensure his defeat, both in the primary, and now in the election.

You've made it clear all along that you never believed him, liked him, admired him, or supported him. How, then, do you think you have a right to feel betrayed?

I am an Obama supporter, and I naturally have issues and questions and concerns about some of his decisions. But he is a politician, and he is not perfect, and the choice right now is McCain vs Obama. I know who I'm supporting.

You, on the other hand, don't know who you are supporting now that Hillary is out of the picture. But even with Hillary gone, we've been treated to a steady diet of Hillary worship, and the requisite attacks on Obama.

So please don't insult our intelligence by suggesting that you have been an Obama supporter, or that you have a right to feel betrayed. Betrayal implies that you had a relationship of trust -- and given that you've worn your derision and antipathy on your sleeve, that's one whopper that you're not going to sell.

If anyone should feel betrayed, it's the Democratic party, which apparently thinks you're a member. Because you are, quite frankly, with every word, doing your level best to get McCain elected.

Some of us who are not astrologers, profits, or anything of the like were able to see this coming from day one. How were we so astute? By realizing that Barack Obama came from the land of Mayor Daley where anything went in the name of political wins.

I hope what passes as reporters these days think to ask Barack Obama some very pointed questions and keep at it until he directly answers. At that point we will see the real Barack Obama and people will no doubt be shocked.

Strong but flawed piece. Yes, Obama flopped. Why? We don't know and, to his discredit, he isn't explaining.

Is America still terrorized? From the patriotism assault from the right and its seeming traction among the public, it appears so. Would soft-on-terror be a more effective weapon against Obama if he voted against the FISA bill? Probably.

And we haven't yet considered the wag-the-dog possibilities: never underestimate the nastiness and unscrupulousness of the Bush regime. All told, we have reason to be disappointed by Obama's FISA vote, despite his support of the Dodd amendment.

But as you say, McCain's the bigger danger by far, not just on matters of war and national security, but across the board--health care, taxes, infrastructure, environment, energy, etc.

So, we must not only grin and bear it but reenergize our enthusiasm and support for Obama: flawed but perhaps the best chance liberals have had in decades.

I too am dismayed, that Walsh could feel "betrayed," when everything I've read of hers has gone from cheap shot to another cheap shot, and if you have a good word for Obama you must be a bot.

Matt Yglesias and many of the leftwing media have always been dishonest when it comes to Obama. Not only did they dislike the Clintons for being both successful and attuned to most Americans they wanted to elected a Black President.

The result from Josh Marshall and his minions to Salon to Olbermann has been a blizzard of dishonesty about both Obama and Hillary Clinton's positions. The only person to really get it correct from the beginning is Paul Krugman. The joke is that Krugman who was hailed by the left when he exposed Bush for the phony he was was blaste by the same Left for showing Obama for what he really was a temporizing centrist.

Now Collins and Walsh who drank the punch suddenly are implying they were never taken in.

It is really shocking how little difference there is between the main stream media and the online version or the Right and Left when it comes to honesty or self-recognition.

Saw you on Hardball Joan, and you are so right to be pissed off. I'm pissed off too and so are a bunch of other Clinton supporters who have moved over to Obama. This is not just one vote as one reader has said, a pattern is emerging from Obama; FISA, womens reproductive rights, second amendment and Iraq. The "inevitable" factor that the campaign is foolishly fostering especially this week, is false security. The assumption that we hard core Dems have no where else to go knowing that we won't vote for McCain is also false security. I'm starting to lean for not voting at all. We tried to tell all y'all that Hillary was a better choice. It's better to pick the devil you know than the one you don't. If we Democrats screw ourselves out of the White House this November, we don't deserve to be a party at all. We tried to tell all y'all that there is no "new" kind of politics. Obama's performance over the last week is testament to this.

Don't like the choice between Constitution-f--ker A and Constitution-f--ker B? Wish you could vote for a third-party candidate who might actually respect the Constitution? Tough - your choices are A and B, and that's it.

Otherwise, you're throwing your vote away!

(Where does that line of reasoning end?)

"Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos!"