You were great on Hardball this afternoon and Mr. Greenwald is our hero. It is galling to hear that Obama thinks that the FISA bill he voted in, was the best compromise, from him and his apologists, who continue this myth about his "Progressive and principled" stands.

We have challenged that all along; we all know how much good that did us! Like you, I am not particularly good at "what if’s”; but victory at any cost is as unprincipled a stand as any I have heard - instead of the Clintons selling their souls for office, we have Obama doing it with consummate ease.

Prof. Jonathan Turley, and various other Constitutional Law scholars have actually deemed the bill, equivalent to the commission of Presidential felony. By attempting to spin his weak, sell-out move, Obama denigrates the scholars and professors, who taught him and us, law. For goodness sake, let's have a better excuse, any near-logical excuse, rather than the pathetic attempts that the Obamacans and fans are making, to explain away, an inexplicable vote.

And Ms. Walsh - would you tell Chris Mathews that you don't need to channel him, irrespective of his megalomania, because you actually have a brain. Unlike the Michelle Bernards of the Independent Women's something or the other, you are able to have cogent thoughts, and have an excellent gift in your ability to articulate those thoughts. Incidentally, what is this Independent Women's organization? Ms. Bernard is so heavily pro-Obama from the very first day she appeared on Hardball, that independence could never have entered the very peripheries of her thought process!

Unforgivable, especially now that it's passed. The only way I'd leave my house in november now is if John Edwards or Jesse Ventura is on the ticket. Although I'll admit all the mouth-frothing hate spewed from Michael Savage and other Reich-Wing talking heads makes me want to vote for him just out of spite. Any hope for meaningful change is dead. Believe in that. Now just comes the question: Is it worth waiting in line for?

It's more like watching volleyball.

I too am garbed in black as I continue to show my sorrow along with Queen Victoria at the sad and untimely passing of Prince Albert.

Add her to that list that includes Michael Savage. Ak, if I do come out and vote for Obama, I'll dedicate that vote to you.

Such a hater!

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And the sad truth is, the more I look at Obama on FISA, the more I think that you were right. Maybe not for the right reasons, but then I am always suspicious when that happens that the flaw in that is my reasoning, not the reasoning of the person I am arguing against.

Okay, I suppose I could try to make excuses for it, pretend it all doesn't matter and all of that, but in the end, it does. That Hillary was no better isn't really that important, none of us expected her to be - that is why we voted against her.

But this betrayal by Obama, well okay I can't claim I was surprised but it was a betrayal - he went against not so much what we expected of him, but what we hoped for from him.

I can no longer honestly argue for gambling on him being better than Hillary, now the gamble is on changing the structure under him because there are no real alternatives. He is running for president against a guaranteed disaster, but there is no guarantee that he isn't a disaster in waiting himself.

In fact the evidence since the end of the primary points to him possibly being worse. Anybody who has read my previous letters knows that I was on of the more vicious supporters of Obama, now I am not so sure.

Change that to a determined hater.

Oh come now. Are you really going down the path of Political Donatism? I thought you were made of sterner stuff. Snap out of it man!

...the reaction to something this fucked up...

The part of me that wants to shout hyperbole is counteracted by the part that reminds that all politicians running for higher office are prone to say things they are not going to back up. But, couldn't he convince the party leadership to punt of this? Kick it down the road until it could be debated in a less politicized atmosphere? Is it always going to be 2002?

The only argument Dems have at this point is who gets to decide the next two, or three, Supreme Court nominees.

For some strange reason, the word blackmail comes to mind...

Greetings

In the wake of the Democrats cowardice and craven capitulation to a lame duck and not so incidently earning telco dollar$ in selling out my constitutional rights with the FISA Bill, I will NEVER vote for another Democrat as long as I live.

What is the point when the Democrats act like Republicans...only worse

Its time to find a party not peopled by cowards whose goal in life is to be "Republican-Lite" by betraying the constitution and their supporters at every turn

Enjoy the journey

WarLord

If Obama couldn't even stand up for the constitution, if he couldn't even use his famous speaking ability to speak out against this rape of a something he himself taught, if he couldn't even do that for fear of what the Republicans would say - what good is he?

A big point in Obama's favour was that back before Iraq started, he spoke out against the war and he was right. He spoke out when it was politically risky, when it could have cost him his career he spoke out.

Where is that Obama now? Cowering at the thought of being called soft on terror by the bunch that either through incompetence or malice let 9/11 happen.

Obama was supposed to be a push back towards real strength, towards thinking things through, towards making informed decisions, towards brave caution instead of reckless cowardice.

Instead he is becoming just another "Tough" guy - who is more interested in the image of strength than actually demonstrating any.