Letters to the Editor
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SO NOW JESSE JACKSON SPEACKS FOR BARACK OBAMA
You republcain sabotuers are funny. Do people buy your garbage on other sites? Noone is buying it here. You enjoy wasting your time jb/gop? Cause you are. Jesse jackson is not barack obama. I understand you might be confused. What with what bill clinton said after sc
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To Joan (the worry factor)
If a magic (and very reliable) genie from the future came to you and shared that Hillary loses almost every time they run her against McCain and Obama wins about 84% of the time, would those of us who mico-analyize your writing notice a change? What do you think it would be?
I understand you probably don't have time for this sort of question, but what you just wrote to HealthisNation made me think it.
p.s. have you ever been asked to speak with Mr. O'Reilly? I want that to happen! Has it?
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From Kos
Yesterday I mocked Clinton's assertion that her battle is somehow akin to the civil rights struggle (as well as suffrage, Zimbabwe, and Florida 2000.
Today, it doesn't seem so funny. John Cole notes the disgusting
co-option of the Civil Rights era after weeks of transparent appeals that whites won’t vote for the black guy which JUST SO COINCIDENTALLY took form during the Appalachian primaries (which conveniently occurred after North Carolina, the last state with a large black population) [...]
It really is disgusting, and yet another nail in the coffin of what used to be Bill and Hillary's positive legacy to the party. She is now being openly mocked across the media and political spectrum. But I'm sure mentioning that is "sexist", and that everyone criticizing the joke her campaign has become is sexist as well.
Steve Benen:
I’m 35, and have been following politics for quite a while, and I’ve never been so disappointed with a politician I’ve admired and respected. Yesterday’s tactics weren’t just wrong, they were offensive. For that matter, they seem to be part of a deliberate strategy to tear Democrats apart and ensure a defeat in November.
For several weeks, I’ve appreciated the fact that Clinton considers herself the superior candidate, and has kept her campaign going in the hopes, from her perspective, of saving the party from itself. But after yesterday, it’s become impossible for me to consider Clinton’s intentions honorable. Her conduct is not that of a leader [...]
Instead of trying to help bring the party together — Election Day is 24 weeks away — Clinton went to Florida to argue that if Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee, his nomination will be illegitimate. And if the DNC plays by the rules Clinton used to support, it’s guilty of vote-suppression — comparable to slavery, Jim Crow, and Zimbabwe. Zimbabwe.
TBogg:
My contempt for her has reached the Lieberman line.
There is one thing that I truly believe in and that is fairness. You may not like the rules, but once you agree to them, you play by them. Hillary Clinton can't even manage to do someting as simple as that.
Josh Marshall:
[Clinton] is embarking on a gambit that is uncertain in its result and simply breathtaking in its cynicism.
Clinton HAD de-escalated last week, but now she is going nuclear. Why? This is a theory:
Time magazine’s Karen Tumulty reports:
What will Clinton’s terms of surrender turn out to be? Her husband, for one, seems to have a pretty clear idea what he thinks she should get as a consolation prize. In Bill Clinton’s view, she has earned nothing short of an offer to be Obama’s running mate, according to some who are close to the former President. Bill “is pushing real hard for this to happen,” says a friend.
The Field can now confirm, based on multiple sources, something that both campaigns publicly deny: that Senator Clinton has directly told Senator Obama that she wants to be his vice presidential nominee, and that Senator Obama politely but straightforwardly and irrevocably said “no.” Obama is going to pick his own running mate based on his own criteria and vetting process.
In matters like these, I won't put much stock on anyone's secret sources -- whether it's Time or the always excellent Al Giordano-- since there's so much bullshit, misinformation, and rumors floating around that it would be impossible for anyone to sift between fact and fiction. There are probably only a handful of people who would know whether this is true, and they're not publicly dishing.
But as a theory, Clinton's over-the-top outbursts yesterday really would fit the pattern of someone scorned of a prize they felt they had rightfully earned. In the stages of grief, we may have gone from "bargaining" back to "anger".
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Wow, the formatting got screwed up on my last post
feel free to delete it site administrator/Joan.
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I realize you clinton supporters are not educated, and many have not been around african americans or even non whites much, so I'll forgive you. not really. Pity is a better word.
""Those tears also have to be analyzed," Jackson said. "They have to be looked at very, very carefully in light of Katrina, in light of other things that Mrs. Clinton did not cry for, particularly as we head to South Carolina where 45 percent of African-Americans will participate in the Democratic contest, and they see real hope in Barack Obama."
If you can explain that as anything other than race-baiting, I'll vote for Obama.
-- jebldmm "
jesse jackson jr is not barack obama, any more than ferraro is clinton. the differance? I'll let others say the differance. I might be over your head, obviouls I am. Go get some lernin' clitnon supporters. Know what your talking about, then blame all the worlds ills on obama and his supporters. At least knwo what your talking about this way you can compeate. As of now, no competition. (from clinton's bobblehead propogandists)
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I have heard clinton second ferraro, rove, rush, bill clinton
I have never heard obama second and back-up wright's bad satements OR jesse jackson's incorrect statements. that is the differance. That is why they call clinton a race baiter. She is one
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@jebldmm
show me where Walsh disparages Clinton as a "Wellesley girl" or Gore as a "Harvard brat," or Bradley as a "Princeton preppy" or some such
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@Joan Walsh
WTF - "Now, some say he's being really severely harmed (maybe 50 percent of Kentucky voters won't back him? all of West Virginia?) by white racism. If white racism is that pervasive, then it's tragic and despicable, but then clearly Obama is not an electable candidate in 2008."
West Virginia - 5 electoral votes (I know there 5 electoral votes)
Kentucky - perpetually red
I do agree that if its a close election, then SE Ohio could be critical
West of the Missippi, though, Obama-voting whites could bring Colorado, Iowa and many other states into the Democratic column
A study of the marginal impact of race-based voting in swing states is relevant to electability. The views of Kentuckians emerging from the polls after weeks of Reverend Wright nonsense with "Working 9 to 5" blaring in the background is not.
Also, do you consider that pretty much the same people who won't vote for a black male against a white male won't vote for a white female against a white male