Letters to the Editor
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The win & Sexism over played by Hillary & her supporters
Obama has reached the majority of pledged delegtes and as of this AM only needs 62 super delegates to secure the nomination at the current DNC official number. After listening to Donna Brazil (now she would make a great female leader), last night I believe when the DNC meets on May 31, they will follow the rules and only seat 50% of the delegates from FL & Mi. That means adding 156.6 pledged delegates to the mix. As of today, that would mean Obama need 218 more delegates, and Hillary would need 400. The writing is on the wall.
In regard to sexism in the media. I dispute there has been sexism directed at Hillary. After all Hillary chose to run as a "gender" candidate. Both her and Geraldine Ferro have on thing in common hanging around their neck... their husband were both involved in ethics problems. I think Hillary did great harm to the woman's movement by her actions. I certainly don't think she is a great role model in how to handle yourself in career situations.
Someone mentioned that the feminist movement has lost it's passion. I think a more accurate assessment would be, it reached many of its goals. I am 62 year old female. I was very involved in career advancement organizations for women in the 70s & 80s and in the pro-choice movement th 90s. What I saw was advancement in the area of careers. However after 1995 there was a decrease in activism in the pro-choice movement of women who are now their 40-50s. Of course the apathy by this age group carried over in to politics in general. The irony it this age group who seem to be supporting Hillary.
I don't think Hillary is getting the majority of her "woman" vote from successful professional women or many feminist my age. I tink her "woman' voter are coming from the formerly "apathetic" women. I think this is why you don't see so much support for Hillary from those in Pro-choice movement. Besides in the 90s while the Clintons supported reproductive choice, I did not see them taking any risks in support of it.
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@ the Exclusive Inner Circle Joan Walsh Letters Club!
Salon: "1. A large room, such a drawing room, used for receiving and entertaining guests.; 2. a periodic gathering of people of social or intellectual distinction."
Some weeks back, I stopped participating in any letter writing or reader feedback here. I did this in disgust after making www.salon.com my FIRST alternative news stop, EVERY day, for many years. I left because the pro-Clinton bias of Salon was just too strong to bear, and I felt Salon was thus deserting many of its values. Several other readers did the same thing.
Alternet, Slate, Huffingtonpost, truthout, democracynow and other altnews sources have been immensely satisfying as primary alt news sources. But old habits are hard to break, and it's been hard to quit surfing to Salon entirely to see how hard they are still pushing Hillary. While doing that, I've noticed this Joan Walsh Letters Club with its unwritten rules for who gets responded to.
What I don't understand is Walsh's selective responses to a chosen few in some sort of strange club. Some folks who post perfectly reasonable objections to things Joan Walsh has said just get zero response. Salon should just put a certain color star next to the chosen few who are in the Exclusive Inner Circle Joan Walsh Letters Club.
Combined with the earlier flap about Randi Rhodes supporters not being welcome at salon, this is all getting kind of smarmy.
Obviously, I'm not enough of a sycophant to merit any response from Joan Walsh. My opinion, which does not count at this site, and which won't be dignified with a response, is that Hillary channeling Karl Rove's racist attacks, and Walsh's support of same, is disgusting.
My two cents. I know, don't let the door hit me on the way back out. I'm out of the club.
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Also
Roughly the same number of people in kentucky and west virgina that would not for obama or the democratic nominee didn't in 04 and didn't in 00. These are in party sabotuers. Democrats in name only. But they vote as republcains. to make that barack obama's problem is a streth gop propoganidsts, clinton's included
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@senorplaid
You write:
"Because I'm an Obama supporter, I've been slow on the uptake on this, but I suspect that there are a number of "pro-Obama" GOP ops posting here -- perhaps as many if not more -- to try and stir up as much shit as possible, just as there are "pro-Clinton" ops. It's a war of ideas, and online, your enemy can come in the appearance of your friend very easily.
Face it, getting Dems all pissed off at each other to screw up the election is ALL THEY GOT this November. There's no other there, there, Gertrude."
You hit the nail on the head. Look at Dee Davis' article yesterday, basically saying 0bama's elitist supporters say nasty things about Appalachians. The a bunch of purported Obama supporters post comments which do just that.
here's an article about the McCain campagin recruiting comment trolls.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/20/mccain-campaign-comment-t_n_102696.html
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@ James65
Ummm...you should care very much who they vote for because Obama cannot win without the support of the other half of the Democratic Party, not to mention at least a plurality of independent voters and a handful of Republicans.
In the post you responded to, I was clear about the kind of Clinton supporters I really don't care about:
1. The Clinton supporters who continue to make disingenuous arguments in favor of her continued candidacy. For example, those folks claiming that she leads in the popular vote (when you include results from Florida and Michigan [where Obama received no votes] and discount caucus states Obama won).
2. The Clinton supporters who threaten to defect to vote for John McCain out of spite.
3. The Clinton supporters who repeatedly insist that Obama cannot win in the general election, despite his leading McCain in national polls.
Like I said, there are enthusiastic Clinton supporters who've become heavily invested in her campaign and they are disappointed. I can appreciate that. But the species of bottom-feeders I've identified above have gone well beyond enthusiastic support and are now trying to blackmail the party.
And so far as I'm concerned, these folks can take their votes and go fuck themselves.