Letters to the Editor
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Good Post, BUT
"In the increasingly unlikely event that Clinton is the nomineee"? Um ............ WHAT? She's done. Obama is youir candidiate. That's it. The first step to repairing the fractured coalition that will win in November is facing up to this fact. It's over.
-JIM HAYES
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Minnesota's almost as blue a state as any
Since when is Minnesota a swing state? More years have passed since the state went to a republican presidential candidate than any other state. (It's the only state Mondale carried in 1984).
We may have our fair share of "blue-collar whites" as well as a higher than average church-going population, but we are also one of the most progressive states in the country.
Just because we're surrounded by red states and swing states, Minnesota's voting record could not be more different.
I'd bet a year's salary that whoever the Dems choose will win Minnesota in November.
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i agree
"What's the answer? I hammered out this whole post, and I don't have one. I do believe this: Obama can't win without doing better among white-working class voters in key swing states; in the increasingly unlikely event Clinton is the nominee, she can't win unless she repairs her relationship with African American voters. So we need candor about race; we also need respect and courtesy. I'm hoping we get more of all of it in the weeks to come.
-- Joan Walsh
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Maybe people like you and clinton and her supporters should stop driving a wedge in teh white vote. Just maybe. Rather than race baiting, and one liners, why not say what is will take to get you to support obama. your a white wORKING CLASS, AREN'T YA. Rather than dividing , why not try and unite.
What would it take for obama to get yoru support joan. that's what it boils down to. to stop yoru propoganda against him.
Rather than blaming obama supprtors, why not just write a list of "white people" demands? Rather than race baiting write a list of why you don't support him an won't. that would be productive. Race biating and divide is DESTRUCTIVE. See the differance joan?
all a gop/catholic game to get your fascist cry baby way. Only works with republcains and catholics. The protestant church in america is about to turn away from the gop and their false profits. all they will have left is old people, racists, catholics, and greedy business men. THAT is the losing coalitiion. Not obama's youth movement. think about the future. clinton's old ladies and illgeal aliens will be dead or out of the country in 10 years. Think about the future. :)
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Joan, you need to see a proctologist right away
Whew! You've got your head somewhere it doesn't belong.
Seriously, the problem is not that Hillary is racist (I don't think she is at all) but that she's implying that white, working-class voters (under-educated) ARE. And, touting her perceived ability to attract these voters, shouts "VOTE FOR ME! I'M YOUR WHITE HONEY!"
I mean, really, this is not a gaffe, an unintentional mistake, a clumsy remark, one said without thinking. This is a serious character flaw that should disqualify her royal highness from any public office. Hillary is pandering to the most base instincts, the worst aspects of prejudice. I vote to boot her out of the party. I mean, Lord, Joan, you don't get how disgustingly offensive, sleazy, and utterly gutter-trash Hillary has become?
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Be careful of what you ask Joan..
It's interesting to note the timing of the sudden resurfacing of John Edwards and Rahm Emanuel.
John could have jumped in earlier to clear the record on this 'white vote' issue. He -a white homeboy only won his Senate race with 41% of the white vote. He should have, if he really cared about the country or the party, but he didn't.
Because Obama won 40% of that same vote. North Carolina gave a white man a 1% edge, completely blocking the bullsh** Hillary and Bill are spewing.
But this is proving something much deeper and darker. A far more disturbing trend has been revealed. It's the fact that the racism and bigotry is NOT coming from all the non-Democrats or the 'red' states. The line fed to us by insiders like Terry McAulife and Rahm Emanuel, while he controlled the DCCC, and by Chuck Schumer, still head of the DSCC.
Because Pennsylvania - an all Democratic voters state, in fact, proved the polar opposite of where the racism and bigotry really exists, in comparison to Iowa and North Carolina. And also explains why Hillary prefers and wins those states.
Thankfully Howard Dean's 50 state strategy and Obama, the very living embodiment of that same strategy, have crashed down every barrier the insiders of the party like Emanuel and Schumer have put up, where they used fear-mongering to cram candidates we didn’t want down our throats and forcing votes Democrats normally would never make.
Hillary can wait till Hell freezes over or another category 5 hurricane to blow Obama away - we’re still NOT GOING TO GIVE IT TO HER!! This is part of an argument on why that’s the case, that many voters are having about this election at Haaretz that I participated in:
“..Were America capable of coming out publicly to strip away the cover hiding the bigotry with the Democratic party long ago, Hillary would never have been the candidate...."
The silent war here in America - the real divisions- are between those hardliners of both the US and Israel who want and pay the way for the hard-line candidacy of Hillary Clinton, versus the rest of America, disgusted with the Bush and Netanyahu way of life and who seek a more moderate and balanced future for all peoples, under Obama.
And that war exists solely within the bowels of the Democrat party and is unknown to many.
But to those of us who have watched it happen- we say enough!
This is a fight now, for the Democratic party`s very soul.
Good v Bad. Old v. New. A soul who the majority of Americans are now coming to believe has been sold to war profiteers and CEO's around the world..
The users of the tactics of racism and bigotry, those same hard-line supporters backing Hillary to try and get her elected, pushed their luck a little too far this time. And ultimately culminated in the sad destruction of Hillary and Bill Clinton.
