Letters to the Editor
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Treeple (true)
I agree with that, big time.
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Carol, did Obama use the hypno-beam when he gave his address?
It's a little known tidbit, but it's the secret of his success.
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And so the Joan Walsh thread debates end
Obama is going to be the Dem Nominee, and all the crazy vituperation on the responses to Joan's posts over the last several months reach a conclusion. Obama cannot win the general election (just as HRC could not have won the general election) without a consolidation between both camps.
I hope that will work itself out: in fact I think it will absent some Ralph Nader-type nihilistic movement.
Either way it would have broken historic barriers, a woman or black guy.
I think the more honest, decent of the two candidates won, and that is a great boon for the Democratic cause.
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Well, there goes my fantasy
For a minute I was hoping that Clinton would take this opportunity to gracefully bow out of the race that she now has literally no legitimate shot at winning. Instead we get "I won Indiana, that means that I should be president!" I guess this just continues her campaign's recent move towards utter illogic - her last refuge.
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@XHut...
Given what her surrogate Lanny Davis is saying right now on CNN, I suspect that the main emphasis of the Clinton campaign going forward is going to be an attempt to get the Michigan and Florida delegates seated acc. to the popular vote.
But she's facing an almost insurmountable task. She needs to get both states seated acc. to the popular vote (which is an undemocractic banana republic move) and not a 50/50 split, AND she needs to hijack some committed Obama delegates, and she needs almost ALL the rest of the superdelegates.
So I suspect we will see a ground war for superdelegates, some major "deprogramming efforts" for the committed delegates, and a legal battle over MI and FL.
And, from what I hear from some folks on the campaign, her oppo research minions are scouring the country looking for everything and anything they can use against Obama.
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@AncientAssyrian (well...)
Because of all those nice compliments you threw my way I will agree with everything and anything you say!!!!!
But; yea, we don't see eye to eye on Joan. My only answer to why her blogs contained the content they did is the one I keep giving; she has specific ideas about what it means to be the front runner. She believes a long primary helps the party. She thinks it helps Barack to take lots of hits now. But, hey, I've always said that I also have no evidence that she isn't supporting Hillary. I just look at the nature of her enthusiastic comments for both..and it appears that her comments about Barack have more substance...just a hunch....But back to your compliments about me....
I think most of us (including Joan) are looking forward to stepping out of this primary.
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Hil-liar-y
She wins a rust belt state by four points (maybe) and loses NC by 14 points. vote totals give Obama roughly 200K more votes in NC, 40K less in Indiana. Thus, she loses the night by 160K, and slips even further behind in the delegate count. Ego alone, plain naked self interest, is all that keeps her bobbleheaded denial express going backwards down the track. She's a loser.
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Hillary's Speech
Two things stand out to me: The first is that Hillary hit people up for money at least twice. The second was a plug for that ridiculous gas tax holiday.
The worst part was the beginning where Clinton brayed to the audience that tonight was a victory and "on to the White House!"
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I've been roped in before
But right now, Clinton's speech sounds awfully like a concession speech, although she did shill for hillaryclinton.com at the beginning and intimate she'd go on to the convention.
I don't know.
Anyway, yes, Joan, Obama's speech was good.
Especially the part about the politics of fear, diversion and division being in our hands to reject.
Howard Dean used to focus on the people, too. "The power to change this country is in your hands, not mine."
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not concession
I meant to say "valedictory" speech.
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Deeply disappointed
I'm deeply disappointed that HRC didn't take this opportunity to bow out gracefully. Instead she took cheap shots, pandered to the audience, and begged for more cash. A very different speech than Barack's.
On a side note, did the supporters in the background cheer "ONE OF US! ONE OF US!"?
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@manos99
For most of his supporters they just go into a trance the moment there is any visual or auditory contact with him. He does use special techniques to gather more minions and after i have a chance to youtube his speech tonight I'll be happy to get back to you and share his approach.
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Weeping for Brunnhilde - I agree
I detected a note of concession in her speech also. I could be wrong, but even though she *had* to make her *fighter* points, she was a bit softer.
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@ Denise
Yeah. She sounded a bit more whimsical. "I will always fight for you..." more of a sense of the future than the present.
Maybe she's finally starting to accept reality?
"And I know many people enjoyed seeing my husband out there again..."
Ah, now she's talking about Kentucky and W. Virginia slipping out of Democratic hands and how that has to stop.
There's her justification for continuing.
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@Carol
Well, I hope you're right. Because that means that once Obama is nominated, I can count on Joan to get right on board with the important business of getting him elected, and taking down McCain, and putting an end to the Republican's eight years of misery.
And I also hope you're right because I'd like to think that Salons' silly season will finally be over, and once we have a nominee in Barack, Salon will not be offering a steady diet of friendly fire against our own nominee...
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@John McCall (June 6th)
That's when Clinton will give her concession speech, unless she starts getting loads of media scrutinty regarding her motivation for staying in and/or the effect she is having on Barack. I doubt the media will get into that with much gusto, so I think we wait until June 6th...