Letters to the Editor
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@lateagain
"I liked what Obama said in his speech about Telling The Truth. What a concept."
One that Senator "I don't take money from oil companies" might want to utilize in the future. Do you think?
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Cheers, Celia!
Will check out.
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The old guard must go...
And not only because its track record has been a miserable failure. Carville is essentially a 4-12 NFL coach, they get fired every season.
I am one of the new generation of Democrats. I grew up lower middle class and am now borederline upper middle class. And yet, to Hillary, and her ilk, I am a latte sipping liberal wuss.
I drink 16oz Buds and Jameson. I was also an economics and poly sci major at Fordham. I see past the lowest-common-denom nonsense of the party establishment.
So, what does this party do with me? They back Hillary, a candidate that vilifies me - willing to trade me, someone who votes Democrat on every election for the prospect of winning over some pro-life/pro-gun/pro-war NASCAR dad!
And then they send me their letters begging for money. Unreal.
Watch it, or you might cause us to bolt and start a party that respects us. Like Obama's - which this site strongly opposes.
Good luck! We are off the boat / out of the ghetto. Deal with it!
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@ HP
Right on, Fordham!
(I grew up in Yonkers.)
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From Joan Walsh
Thanks, Celia, I missed that and it was hilarious.
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Youtube link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzOTfbpGj1s
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Thanks Joan Walsh
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
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what's telling about this exchange
Begala is simply bashing the brand like the Clintonistas have been doing for the past 20 years. The Begala idea of what the Democratic party should be is...what? It's all about taking the liberal vote for granted and picking up a bunch of "swing voters" by bashing the liberals. It's called triangulation.
It is neither a good long-term plan for a ruling coalition nor is it a plan that carries with it any mandate for how to govern. One talented person like Bill Clinton can win an election by triangulating, but if an entire wing of the party is doing this, the party loses all sense of unity.
Begala's dismissive comment about "eggheads and African-Americans" sounds like something Rush Limbaugh would say. It really is too bad that he thinks well-educated people somehow represent an electoral vulnerability for Democrats. It seems to me that the Republicans never has this issue. Begala has simply fallen into a trap.
I am reminded of something Michael Corleone says in Godfather II.
Never be embarrassed by your wealth. This recent contempt for money is still another trick of the rich to keep the poor without it.
Similarly, the idea that Democrats should somehow be embarrassed for being educated is a trick. The people who toss around labels like "egghead" are not, in fact, more attuned to "average Joes" than well-educated people are. It's a myth. Moreover, it's not a myth that helps Democrats any. Sad to see Begala buying into it.
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weeping thanks for the video
Awesome!
I love Donna Brazile. And the newly identified constituency of grumpy people. Surely that is something that unites us all!
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grumpy?
Ha! I'm no quitter, for as you all know, tis much better to be bitter!
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ok then, what was it Donna Brazile said?
"The transcript below doesn't capture what Brazile said to tick off Begala: She suggested Barack Obama might not need to worry so much about the white working-class and Latino voters that are going with Hillary Clinton, because behind Obama, the party is being remade by young voters, urban voters and suburban voters."
I'm curious to see the quote rather than paraphrase.
Is she proposing a vision of a party that shuns white working class people?
Or is she answering the contention that Obama cannot win enough white voters to get elected?
That contention, of course, and a healthy dose of pragmatism, is why so many Hillary backers support or turn a blind eye to campaign tactics which heighten tensions between race/gender/class groups.
But it's a false choice. We don't have to choose between
1) embracing blue collar white voters by pandering to prejudices/fears
-and-
2) looking down our snooty noses at the [insert deragotory term]
I'm all for white blue collar workers but not so fond of Rovian tactics.
And again, it's certainly true that Obama draws a lot of support from people across the spectrum, and this seems a fair point to make against the electibility argument.
Plus, the Clinton campaign has regularly been trying to trump up charges of elitism and heighten tensions between constituents, so I wonder if Begala's righteous defense wasn't him seeing an opportunity for a Talking Point.
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@ manos
Hee hee.
I think we're onto something here.
Bitter, grumpy, angry, post-sexual, low-information...there's hope for us all!
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@ chimpygo
"I'm all for white blue collar workers but not so fond of Rovian tactics."
A resounding hear, hear.
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Castellanos must be an idiot.
THAT'S the best attack line they can come up with? Honestly? "Oooh Obama might invite Wright to be his VP! Or Ayers to be his Secretary of State!"
Why not just start pulling out sheets and making scary ghost noises?
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With all due respect Joan
Who give a rats behind?
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Thanks Celia and Brunnhilde -- thanks for the video links
I'll post them again for those who missed them:
Brazile on Colbert:
http://www.comedycentral.com/colbertreport/videos.jhtml?videoId=167399
this is amusing, especially her line about being grumpy
Brazile on CNN:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzOTfbpGj1s
the marginally interesting basis of Joan Walsh's blog here, and not quite as heated as Walsh makes it sound
Walsh's previous blog -- with much better comments thread!
http://www.salon.com/opinion/walsh/election_2008/2008/05/07/obama_victory_speech/index.html
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Without a yesterday, no today or tomorrow...
I always chuckle to myself, wondering whether the Obama supporters who so easily dismiss everything as "too/so yesterday" are delusional, history- and intellectual-challenged, or fanatics so blinded by their fanatical devotion to a politician that they're no longer capable of being mental and intellectual critical and curious beings....
What's really interesting is how most of them dismiss the achievemnts of "yestreday" as irrelevant to their present lives, ignoring the fact that were it not for those achievemnets what they are today taking for granted would not have been possible. What's more, to dismissively dismiss an entire generation and achievements as "so yesterday" based on the words of a politician mouthing "hope" and "change" makes me question the standard of education as well as the intellectual maturity of US college/university students. Politicians are politicians, and their goal/objective, irrespective of what they say, is to win at all cost!
Btw, wouldn't it be wise for the so-called analysts and talking heads who are prematurely claiming that Rev. Wright has not affected voters to take into consideration that a third of NC Dem. voters are AAs who, Wright or no Wright, will vote overwhelmingly for Obama, and that the real test would be in November in the general election, if Obama is the Dem party nominee? I fear Rev. Wright, unlike in the primaries, will be prominent in the general election. And with the Dukakis-like coalition (AAs and extreme left falang of the Democratic party) Donna Brazille is lauding, I see a McCain landslide (Excuse me, WaPo, 14% is not a landslide. Obama was expected to win NC by 25+%!) in the making. Without the white working class, hispanics, women, old people, and independent voters (a group Obama's losing faster than he's getting the young and AAs) Obama's toast in November. You can take that to the bank!