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Tuesday, May 6, 2008 12:00 AM

Michael Wolff on sex and the Dems

Hillary and her backers are "post-sexual." Obama has a hot wife who'll "whip his ass." "Middle-aged white men" face "revulsion." Who's on top in 2008? Nobody.

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Monday, May 5, 2008 10:50 PM

Racial Stereotype Inversion

I hadn't appreciated how strangely complex having these particular three candidates is until I read the article, not completely. America doesn't like complex and I feel dispirited now, thank you.

Monday, May 5, 2008 10:51 PM

Is this "newsy" or somethin'?

Joan go figure, your balls just got bigger.

Monday, May 5, 2008 11:06 PM

dog whistle

Is it a dog whistle Ms Walsh or am I just not happy to see you. Is there no dark moist Freudian mist you will not explore? This follows Hillary with balls? I am hearing your whistle blowing half black with nigger wife pussy whipped? .. congratulations white Irish Catholic don't want anyone uppity moving in next door to the Whitehouse posturing as fair and balanced .. come to think of it maybe give Bill O'Reilly a call I hear he does good phone. A perfect union.

Monday, May 5, 2008 11:11 PM

From Joan Walsh

Take it up with Vanity Fair, rnostbakken.

Monday, May 5, 2008 11:11 PM

It's official

Bed and circuses have won out. Somebody tell the superdelegates they're off the hook.

Monday, May 5, 2008 11:13 PM

Bonobos or Chimps?

We have a lot of DNA in common with them. Are we the constantly groping, humpy sorts, engaged in a lot of bonding via frottage? Or are we the violent, forceful types, beaten down by large silverbacked males, supported by their large alpha females. Hard to tell. I learned a lot about people with my flickr account. I have a lot of photos up. A bunch are of the freeway overpass that melted when a gas truck blew up. That got lots of hits. The rest of my photos are of pets, landscapes and zoo animals. The one that gets the most hits of all the animal photos has "mating behavior" as part of the title.

We primates are sex obsessed, and no one does it like Americans. Israel had Golda Meir. Ireland's had two female presidents. The Brits have the Queen and had Thatcher. There was Benazir Bhutto and Indira Ghandi. I don't recall a lot of handwringing about their sex lives, tho I did like the UN picture where the president of Ireland wore a sassy red suit that really made her stand out.

I'd hate to think we are still lumbering, ball sniffing apes in this country and that our president will be chosen, based on some stereotypes of "post sexual" (my shiny white ass) women or men fantasizing about getting some arm candy with that hip replacement. But, I would not be surprised.

Monday, May 5, 2008 11:29 PM

I'm an Obama supporter and I love Michelle

What happens tomorrow, only time will tell. But I can't understand how Bill Clinton could dog Hillary the way that he did. Actin' like he's some kind of stupid little fourteen year old kid. I think Hillary makes silly little smirky facial expressions at times that I find kind of condescending, but back in the day when she was first lady, her hotness was unending. And that's the truth Ruth.

Monday, May 5, 2008 11:30 PM

From Joan Walsh

Take it up with Vanity Fair?

Are you suggesting Hillary and Barak by Annie Liebebovitz in the King Kong pose? HMMM Lebron and Gisele. Maybe I understand now. Thank you for clearing it up.

Monday, May 5, 2008 11:31 PM

I don't get it.

Joan says she doesn't get it about the Vanity Fair writer. I don't get it about Joan choosing to write about how she doesn't get it.

Monday, May 5, 2008 11:45 PM

nomination

I nominate Gisele Bundchen for president. The ape cannot win the votes of gun totin failed high school unemployed folks who are going to vote Republican anyway. My dad and mom were born in your lovely country which remained lovely until the lunatics started running the asylum.

I do confess that I will die with a smile on my face that the almighty Joan Walsh responded to one of my posts. Joan you are invited to me wake ... hopefully after the swearing in of Barak

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 12:34 AM

Sounded like sour grapes to me....

Reading Wolff's article, I was struck by this passage:

The result is a consensus on sexual politics that is driven by women, striking in its asperity and lack of generosity. Men in public positions who have sneaky sex are weak. The very fact that they would risk their public positions for sex (just sex) is a sign of their weakness. They have forsaken logic and are thinking with their penises (said with particular venom). New York magazine, in an artful, if gutter, appeal to women readers, had a cover photograph of Eliot Spitzer with the word “brain” and an arrow pointing to his crotch.

Actually, men in public positions who deign to tell the rest of us how to live our sexual lives by proscribing laws about abortion, homosexual marriage, and the like and then engage in sneaky (i.e. illicit sex) ARE weak. I don't object to a man visiting a prostitute - except when that man is a man who sends other men to jail for illegal sexual conduct. Then he's not just weak, he's an asshole.

Given all the years that men denied women access to power for fear they'd be blinded by irrational emotion, or PMS, how can Wolff now be surprised at women for being aggravated that those same gatekeepers were thinking with their dicks and granting political favors to the people helping them get laid?

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 01:53 AM

I'm without words, almost

Wow! That has to be about the most ridiculous piece I have ever read on any subject whatsoever.

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 02:10 AM

I'm with you there Hattie

This whole thing seems batty.

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 03:37 AM

Oomphy

Joan Walsh seems rather taken with the word "oomphy." She writes:

Joan Walsh: "(Salon letter writers: This one's for you. Please have a field day with oomphy, because I don't know where to start.)"

I would have a field day with oomphy, but I don't know where to start either.

But "Field Day With Oomphy" sounds like a good title for a movie, or perhaps a comic book.

Isn't "oomph" the sound you make after accidentally running groin-first into the bedpost?

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 04:34 AM

Spitzer's Disgrace

Elliot Spitzer did not disgrace "himself, his wife, and his daughters." He disgraced only himself. Don't tar his his family with the same brush just because he was a jerk.

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 04:39 AM

The specifics in the Wolff article can be debated

but there's no doubt in my mind that enough of the voting public (subliminally at least) thinks this way to determine this and every presidential race. We are voting for both prime minister AND king/queen/head of state. To pretend that image doesn't count is to deny that Kennedy beat Nixon in 1960 because he was better looking, something that's been known and excessively remarked upon for 48 years. All the campaigns know this, Joan Walsh surely knows this, and while it's fine to hope that people are going to vote on issues in this election, it's fantasy to think that enough of them are going to do so to make a difference in the final result.

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