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Saturday, May 3, 2008 12:00 AM

Hillary Clinton's big, brass ... fortitude

She battled Bill O'Reilly (and won) while hammering away on her gas-tax holiday plan, critics be damned.

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Saturday, May 3, 2008 11:34 AM

Iran and gas tax

Hillary's great except for Iran and the gas tax?

Well Gacy was a great guy except for that little thing about the 33 boys

Saturday, May 3, 2008 11:39 AM

To the La Raza ethics professor that backs censorship of opinions different from his own

Hey Prof,

You left out “the redneck vote” also.

I don’t pretend to speak for Obama. I just support his candidacy over the two white horses in this race. Obama is above my level of discourse.

When the media talks about the white vote they forget to mention that many Hispanics if they are not outright white, classify themselves as white. Spain is as lily white a place and just as European as England. In fact, it’s less ethnically diverse than England. The Spaniards colonized the Americas from the Rio Grande to Patagonia. They too had black slaves. I use Mariachi here as a euphemism for those who support illegal immigration across our southern border. When Mexico starts providing working class English speaking Americans all the rights the tens of millions of illegal Hispanic immigrants demand and receive in our country, I’ll forgive your “La Raza” racism. To quote a Frenchman, I may not agree with what you say, but defend to the death your right to say it. That includes Mexicans booing and jeering the black Miss America when she trips and falls in their country and their chanting OSAMA OSAMA (not Obama Obama) when the US soccer team plays in Mexico. Nice try, trying to smear my opinion, just like a Clinton you are, eh?

Saturday, May 3, 2008 11:54 AM

that was funy, HealThisNation

"Are you suggesting the socialization of oil companies?" - what else could "excess profits tax" be - unless you include price controls. Hey! maybe she has a Henry-like "single tax theory" except instead of land, it is oil. if so, she should say so. (it's more interesting than the bubblegum she's talking about).
anyway, howard dean says that Jun 3 is the end, finally and definitely. that's a month. we can last that long. so hillary supporters have your end-of-term party - we all graduate then.

Saturday, May 3, 2008 11:54 AM

Colbert's term for women's balls is "Thatchers"

Yes, Hillary has Thatchers. That her Thatchers are not in dispute is a victory for some branches of feminist thought: the first serious female presidential candidate is not a walking breast of a leader. "Is she tough enough?" and questions of that ink are not at issue.

In my personal opinion, however, Thatchers without wisdom aren't all that admirable (cf King George W. Bush). By Joan's own admission, her gas tax stance is the worst of political pandering. And her beyond hawkish position on Iran smacks of ubercynical, tone-deaf posturing (unless she's a secret warmonger--maybe that's a good line of investigative journalism to persue).

So, what kind of victory is a woman with Thatchers when said woman is thinking with them? Just wondering.

Saturday, May 3, 2008 11:55 AM

@Salieri1969

"So if Obama had supported the gas tax holiday, he would be 'pandering,' but when Hillary supports it, she's courageous."

Yes, because for Joan every day is "opposites day."

Saturday, May 3, 2008 11:59 AM

@gabbyone

That's a good detail about Obama and the Illinois gas tax. I would still be cheering for HRC if her campaign was the type that would be calling him on those details rather than calling him a Muslim -- that is, NOT as Muslim, so far as we know.

Saturday, May 3, 2008 12:03 PM

@Arlo Figg

But when you express your ideas in hate speech, they disappear completely. Would you be willing try again w/o the denigrating language?

Saturday, May 3, 2008 12:09 PM

Sugarman

That's the bottom line

June three

Not Hill-a-ry

"It's all about me."

Saturday, May 3, 2008 12:14 PM

Balls + Hubris - Principle - Wisdom = Hillary Clinton

I'll agree with just about everyone that Hillary Clinton is one tenacious politician. I'll disagree with anyone who thinks this is what our country needs right now.

Perhaps one of the most shameless opportunists to ever grace the national stage, I'm shocked more people aren't completely dismayed by her consistent lack of ethics or principle. Yes, she's a fighter and is extremely tough and resilient, but by sacrificing her integrity in the process, she reveals that her toughness and resiliency is not designed to help the American people, but rather a blatant power grab.

She knows damn well that her gas tax holiday is economically impracticable. But it polls well, so she sticks to it. This is not leadership ... this is dishonesty on a diabolical scale.

Is this what we can expect from a Clinton presidency? The balls to defy expert analysis in favor of populist simplicity? The courage to fight everyone who disagrees with her instead of listening to opposing viewpoints and making informed decisions? The toughness to never admit she's wrong? More jingoism?

You'd think we'd have learned our lesson from 8 years of such destructive behavior.

Is this evidence of why it's so difficult to leave abusive relationships?

Saturday, May 3, 2008 12:16 PM

@Silenced

That hurts just to read.

Some panders are relatively harmless. They mostly just run up the debt.

Others cause grievous harm.

Rage -- GThrasher, are you out there? -- is an appropriate response.

[I want to recommend a wonderful book that examines these kinds of consequential political betrayals and defeats and thinks about how we respond (unsuccessfully and successfully) to them: MOURNING MODERNITY, by Seth Moglen, available at Amazon, etc. (Moglen looks at the defeats suffered by the Left in the early part of the 20th Century, which he defines as a loss in the sense of a death or personal tragedy, and explores literary expressions that try to cope with that loss. It's moving, learned, insightful and a pleasure to read.]

Your friend's suffering and your anguish require recognition and empathy.

I offer mine.

Saturday, May 3, 2008 12:18 PM

yes manos, till then we just have to put up

with this all-girl disfunctional prom.

Saturday, May 3, 2008 12:18 PM

maniondl

Thatcher's balls were particularly impressive to all the penguins at the south pole during the Falkland Islands war. I agree, any candidate should take the greatest of pains, to put balls in reserve, and to first go for brains.

Saturday, May 3, 2008 12:20 PM

Critics be damned

How about Democratic party be damned too, okay let's just say it! God damn America!

Saturday, May 3, 2008 12:21 PM

Go walk the dog

Since when is taking a verbal shot at politicians in our country classified as hate speech? Go to the Huffpost for a dose of hate speech. I stand by my descriptions of well known politicians. Hate speech like beauty and terrorism is often in the eye of the beholder. When American citizens break the law, our society labels us criminals, isn't that hate speech? Explain this one to me dog-genius, why then can foreigners come into our country and break our laws and be called refugees? You are a supporter of the double standard amigo.

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