Letters to the Editor
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Since you seem a little obsessed with pastoral relations, Joan, . . .
Do you think Hillary's relationship with Douglas Coe/The Family/The Fellowship is comment worthy?
If so do you have a comment?
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Let's hope...
Let's hope the media starts paying as much attention to McCain's association with questionable political characters as they have to Obama's.
Yes, let's do, Joan. Starting with Salon.
Here's hoping that we see this on the front page of Salon, day after day, covered from multiple angles by everyone from you to Rebecca Traister to O'Hehir, from now until November.
(In the meantime...when will Salon be covering Hillary's religious relationship? And the "annihilating Iran" issue? )
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Cute anaology, but ....
The notion that "George Bush is John McCain's Rev. Wright" is a cute analogy, but it would only really work if Obama's views reflected those of Wright. They obviously do not. McCain, meanwhile, is more than happy to continue George Bush's disastrous policies that have left America with never left to cling to but empty rhetoric and a pocketful of maxed out credit cards.
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"questionable political characters"
Wright is a political character? That's news to me.
How utterly depressing that someone had to take a poll about whether an irrelevant, previously unknown, blowhard preacher is more relevant and disturbing to Americans than the guy THEY put in office who has flushed this country down the toilet during the last 8 years.
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"Mission Accomplished" said MCcain to Bush
but Hillary's wants to have -
a little red button to push.
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Let's Hope Joan Starts Paying Attention to Clinton's Questionable Associations
Joan,
Who's more unsavory, McCain or Obama? Let's Look harder at McCain before we choose!
Nice.
Points to you, Joan. You never go off message.
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except ...
George Bush is a draft dodging murderer, and Jeremiah right is, you know, not.
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I thought for a split-second....
that I was going to read something substantive here about the Bush effect on McCain. I should have guessed.
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Polling for this ended on Monday.
As they mentioned on NBC Nightly news, the polling for this ended on Monday, before Obama's public denouncement of Wright. I'm not going to speculate how that will effect public opinion, but I thought it was worth noting.
Regarding this:
Let's hope the media starts paying as much attention to McCain's association with questionable political characters as they have to Obama's.
No need to hope, Salon is a media outlet after all. How about you take the lead on that one?
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yikes
so, did that same poll ask voters how the candidates'poitions on the war, the economy, the environmnt, healthcare, education, or immigration might impact their voting?
anyone? Bueller?
As for McCain's flaws, I hope to be reading about them in salon, writ large.
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Why resort to diplomacy?
Why use reason? Why debate? The quickest solution, is just to obliterate!
Hillary Clinton, the candidate who stands for FINAL SOLUTIONS.
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Ms. Walsh?
Do you ever get tired of being the worst writer at your own magazine? Is having your own magazine the only way you can get your thoughts published? Just wondering. You might consider letting some of the good writers go (cough - Glenn - cough cough), as they really make you look bad in comparison.
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Joan Walsh- A Swift Boat Veteran Herself at This point
Congratulations Salon,
Once again you have decided that the "politics of personal destruction" and the "politics of pile on" that you were founded in part to combat will hence forth be your stock and trade. You have become everything that you claim to oppose.
You are also exhibit A that American political debate is now simply to broken to be fixed from within.
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@the professor: I think Joan is very creative, writing wise
Do you ever get tired of being the worst writer at your own magazine? Is having your own magazine the only way you can get your thoughts published?
Don't be so harsh. How many San Franciscans can channel Omaha soccer moms so flawlessly?
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I'll take what I can get.....
I could pronounce it too little too late Joan...but maybe it's not. Maybe you're starting to come around....
I'm not sure why it was so difficult for 99% of the media to believe Barack Obama knew and accepted the very eloquent, learned, and reasonable man we all saw on Bill Moyers on Friday. Why few, even among black journalists, could see the merit in black man raised in a white world seeking out that experience in adulthood by looking to men like Rev. Wright. Why, despite the fact respected many white clergy and scholars did, that he is an eloquent, likeable, learned man who was doing great community service, you expect Obama only to see his faults.
As a white woman I still fail to see what there was to condemn. Wright's radical views were certainly not his focus, as evidence by the esteem in which he was held by the clergy community. And those views, while I believe misguided, had a basis in his experiences. Were a response to reality, and seemed to be aimed at uplifting the downtrodden black community.
The true craziness is the wackos McCain is embracing? The ones that eat breakfast at the WH each month? Those that would see the displacement/death of millions of Palestinians so they could get sucked up in the great Jesus vacuum while watching the great majority of their fellow Americans die in a horrible fiery mess?
And then there is George W. At last. Thanks Joan. Associate away....
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Inherent Contradiction
I don't know how McCain can renounce Bush when 95% of his policies are identical to W's. He'de have to renounce himself as well. THAT I would pay to see.
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Wouldn't it be Hagee?!?
Wouldn't McCain's equivalent to Wright be the Reverend John Hagee? You know the one who says the Catholic church is the whore of babylon? And that sin is to blame for Hurricane Katrina? Yes, let's just let this nutcase get a free ride while we all pile on Obama.
We get the government we deserve. Fuck this country.
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Shoot Me
You're starting to concern me Joan. What is it that lets you say the "Democrats" will unite behind their candidate? Is it a typo? You mean Republicans, don't you? If you're on a quixotic mission, I think it's ill conceived.
Where in God's name is your evidence?
It isn't in the last two presidentials--or for that matter since the Viet Nam period. (yeah, yeah Carter and Clinton, big deal when you consider the broader reality of what it's meant to the nation.) It certainly doesn't show itself here on Salon.
I don't see anybody talking about it in MSM. Obama's black supporters show less interest each day, and them workin' folks, well, come on Joan--they show more tolerance than the Obamatons, but I think these polls are starting to have some subliminal effect on you--like starvation or sleep apnia. The party has never been in greater danger of splitting--war or no war.
You actually think Bush supporters are going to tell the truth to anybody outside the voting booth, the country club, or their church? They know they're thieves and bigots who need to keep their mouth shut. Just like when Clinton was on his way out. To this day, I think it was Gore's disassociation that was his greatest mistake. Shoot me.
THE REPUBLICANS ARE THE ONES WHO STICK TOGETHER, AND THE DEMOCRAT/LIBERALS HAVEN'T GOT A CLUE WHAT PARTY LOYALTY MEANS--or should I simply say class loyalty and get it the hell over with.
Maybe you've lived in San Francisco too long and it's time for a change.