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Sunday, April 27, 2008 12:00 AM

Why Jeremiah Wright is so wrong

I applaud Bill Moyers for being fair to Obama's pastor, but their PBS hour won't chase questions about his grim view of America. Plus: More Wright tapes emerge.

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Monday, April 28, 2008 01:06 PM

JOAN WALSH BALDERDASH

WALSH TYPIFIES THE HEAD IN THE SAND MENTALITY THAT FAILS TO RECOGNIZE BRILLIANCE. DR WRIGHT ANSWERED EVERY QUESTION AND DEMONSTRATED HIS KNOWLEDGE AND WEALTH OF INFORMATION THAT WENT RIGHT OVER THE HEAD AND WALSH AND MILLIONS LIKE HER. I WOULD LOVE TO COMPARE HER BACKGROUND IN EDUCATION, AND LIFE EXPERIENCES AND COMPARE THAT TO DR WRIGHT AND OR OBAMA. WOULD BE NO COMPARISON. WALSH SPEAKS FROM A TUBFUL OF IGNORANCE WHEN SHE CRITIQUES THE MESSAGE THAT DR WRIGHT DELIVERED. AND TO PROVE STUPIDITY IS TO SURMISE THAT 9/11 HAPPENED IN A VACUUM OR THAT IT WAS DONE OUT OF JEALOSY? HOW CAN SUCH AN IGNORANT INDIVIDUAL(S) HAVE SUCH ACCESS TO THE MEDIA TO SPREAD SUCH CRAP THAT OOOZES FROM THE MUSH OF HER MIND?

Monday, April 28, 2008 01:08 PM

one more, for joan's worrys and concerns

"REVEREND WRIGHT: The governmental leaders, those -- as I said to Barack Obama, my member -- I am a pastor, he's a member. I'm not a spiritual mentor, guru. I'm his pastor

And I said to Barack Obama, last year, "If you get elected, November the 5th, I'm coming after you, because you'll be representing a government whose policies grind under people." All right? It's about policy, not the American people.

And if you saw the Bill Moyers show, I was talking about -- although it got edited out -- you know, that's biblical. God doesn't bless everything. God condemns something -- and d-e-m-n, "demn," is where we get the word "damn." God damns some practices.

And there is no excuse for the things that the government, not the American people, have done. That doesn't make me not like America or unpatriotic.

So in Jesus -- when Jesus says, "Not only you brood of vipers" -- now, he's playing the dozens, because he's talking about their mamas. To say "brood" means your mother is an asp, a-s-p. Should we put Jesus out of the congregation?

When Jesus says, "You'll be brought down to Hell," that's not -- that's bombastic, divisive speech. Maybe we ought to take Jesus out of this Christian faith.

No. What I said about and what I think about and what -- again, until I can't -- until racism and slavery are confessed and asked for forgiveness -- have we asked the Japanese to forgive us? We have never as a country, the policymakers -- in fact, Clinton almost got in trouble because he almost apologized at Gorialan (ph). We have never apologized as a country.

Britain has apologized to Africans, but this country's leaders have refused to apologize. So until that apology comes, I'm not going to keep stepping on your foot and asking you, "Does this hurt? Do you forgive me for stepping on your foot?" if I'm still stepping on your foot.

Understand that? Capiche?

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Enjoy your treason divide and conquer while it last gop/joan. You got a year left, tops. Enough yoru divide and conquer, propogate for profit while it lasts

Monday, April 28, 2008 01:09 PM

.. One last thing..

What Wright said about the Govt. spreading AID's to Blacks (if he did say it): hey, I live in Pennsylvania, where 75% of Whites believe in Adam and Eve. Which one seems more plausible?

Monday, April 28, 2008 01:11 PM

anyaseton

If you can explain how "Black Liberation Theology" isn't inheirently racist I'll pay the 3 bucks to attend...

James Cone Wikipedia

James Hal Cone (August 5, 1938 - ) is an African-American Christian theologian best known for his advocacy of Black theology, which is related to Liberation theology and the Black Power movement. He is currently the Charles Augustus Briggs Distinguished Professor of Systematic Theology at Union Theological Seminary in the City of New York. Jeremiah Wright has cited Cone as an influence on his thinking.

From the Cone Archive:

"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community … Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy.”

"For white people, God’s reconciliation in Jesus Christ means that God has made black people a beautiful people; and if they are going to be in relationship with God, they must enter by means of their black brothers, who are a manifestation of God’s presence on earth. The assumption that one can know God without knowing blackness is the basic heresy of the white churches. They want God without blackness, Christ without obedience, love without death. What they fail to realize is that in America, God’s revelation on earth has always been black, red, or some other shocking shade, but never white. Whiteness, as revealed in the history of America, is the expression of what is wrong with man. It is a symbol of man’s depravity. God cannot be white even though white churches have portrayed him as white. When we look at what whiteness has done to the minds of men in this country, we can see clearly what the New Testament meant when it spoke of the principalities and powers. To speak of Satan and his powers becomes not just a way of speaking but a fact of reality. When we can see a people who are controlled by an ideology of whiteness, then we know what reconciliation must mean. The coming of Christ means a denial of what we thought we were. It means destroying the white devil in us. Reconciliation to God means that white people are prepared to deny themselves (whiteness), take up the cross (blackness) and follow Christ"

Monday, April 28, 2008 01:12 PM

@ bringbackmalcom

That got a giggle out of me, thanks, to which I can only reply, "Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!"

Seriously, though, I've appreciated your posts here and thank you deeply for them.

Monday, April 28, 2008 01:17 PM

More of Rev Wrights Favorite "Black Theologian"

"All white men are responsible for white oppression. It is much too easy to say, "Racism is not my fault," or "I am not responsible for the country's inhumanity to the black man...But insofar as white do-gooders tolerate and sponsor racism in their educational institutions, their political, economic and social structures, their churches, and in every other aspect of American life, they are directly responsible for racism...Racism is possible because whites are indifferent to suffering and patient with cruelty."

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