"It has been right here in our midst and on our shoulders since the 1600s, but it was, has been, and, in far too many instances, still is invisible to the dominant culture, in terms of its rich history, its incredible legacy, and its multiple meanings.

The black religious experience is a tradition that, at one point in American history, was actually called the "invisible institution," as it was forced underground by the Black Codes.

The Black Codes prohibited the gathering of more than two black people without a white person being present to monitor the conversation, the content, and the mood of any discourse between persons of African descent in this country.

Africans did not stop worshipping because of the Black Codes. Africans did not stop gathering for inspiration and information and for encouragement and for hope in the midst of discouraging and seemingly hopeless circumstances. They just gathered out of the eyesight and the earshot of those who defined them as less than human.

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wright.

true or false, gop propogandists/joan/joan's bobble heads.

False? If false so what?

true? if true so what?

Expose yourselves gop/joan. Let's do this all day. If it changes joan and her propoganda site it will be worth it. Altough joan doe snot have the courage to engage. Only likes to be on one side of the magic mirror.

Is that true joan? If not why?

"They became, in other words, invisible in and invisible to the eyes of the dominant culture. They gathered to worship in brush arbors, sometimes called hush arbors, where the slaveholders, slave patrols, and Uncle Toms couldn't hear nobody pray. "

"It is all of those streams that make up this multilayered and rich tapestry of the black religious experience. And I stand before you to open up this two-day symposium with the hope that this most recent attack on the black church is not an attack on Jeremiah Wright; it is an attack on the black church.

As the vice president told you, that applause comes from not the working press.

The most recent attack on the black church, it is our hope that this just might mean that the reality of the African-American church will no longer be invisible.

Maybe now, as an honest dialogue about race in this country begins, a dialogue called for by Senator Obama and a dialogue to begin in the United Church of Christ among 5,700 congregations in just a few weeks, maybe now, as that dialogue begins, the religious tradition that has kept hope alive for people struggling to survive in countless hopeless situation, maybe that religious tradition will be understood, celebrated, and even embraced by a nation that seems not to have noticed why 11 o'clock on Sunday morning has been called the most segregated hour in America.

We have known since 1787 that it is the most segregated hour. Maybe now we can begin to understand why it is the most segregated hour."

Not if walsh has anything to say about it. Move forward and start talking about race? Nah. Let's us it as a tool WITH THE REPUBLCAINS, to divide america, rather than unite.

Again, joan. you take issue with the concept of a black chuch. BAsed on thsi statement, why?

It sounds like it's the idea of America, its fundamental principles, that he's rejecting.

Well, Joan, if you mean he's rejecting the fundamental principle, expressed clearly in the US Constitution, that suffrage would be extended only to free white males over 21 who owned land . . .. Yes, he is.

Perhaps it was that clause that for purposes of determining representation in the House of Representatives, each slave would count as 3/5 of a person (altho the benefit in numbers of Congressmen, of course, would go to the white slave OWNER)?

Geeze, can we also throw in the genocide against the Native Americans, the stealing of Texas from Mexico because Mexico's constitution outlawed slavery, the slaughter of the bison to starve the plains Indians, the overthrow of lawfully elected governments in Iran or Venezuaela, and the ongoing illegal and criminal war in Iraq??

What turnip truck did you just roll off, lady??

I know you catholics (we're using broad cahracterzations after all today) do not belive in the teachings of Jesus, you have a pope. Does tha tmake you chrsitians then, or something else? If you are against true chrsitians, or the concept of a black church, or a chrsitian church where white pope rules do not apply, what does that make you?

If you ahte chrsitanity and true chrstiains, catholics, what does that make you? Chrstiians? If so how?

"I take and trace the theology of the black church back to the prophets in the Hebrew Bible and to its last prophet, in my tradition, the one we call Jesus of Nazareth.

The prophetic tradition of the black church has its roots in Isaiah, the 61st chapter, where God says the prophet is to preach the gospel to the poor and to set at liberty those who are held captive. Liberating the captives also liberates who are holding them captive.

It frees the captives and it frees the captors. It frees the oppressed and it frees the oppressors.

The prophetic theology of the black church, during the days of chattel slavery, was a theology of liberation. It was preached to set free those who were held in bondage spiritually, psychologically, and sometimes physically. And it was practiced to set the slaveholders free from the notion that they could define other human beings or confine a soul set free by the power of the gospel.

The prophetic theology of the black church during the days of segregation, Jim Crow, lynching, and the separate-but-equal fantasy was a theology of liberation.

It was preached to set African-Americans free from the notion of second-class citizenship, which was the law of the land. And it was practiced to set free misguided and miseducated Americans from the notion that they were actually superior to other Americans based on the color of their skin. The prophetic theology of the black church in our day is preached to set African-Americans and all other Americans free from the misconceived notion that different means deficient.

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wright.

bueler buler buler.

Thanks what I thought gop. cowards. Thank you for showing independant thinkers you are fascist propgoandists and cowards. You don't believe what you say. You just come to divide and conquer. hopefully any real democrats see your sabotuer faces.