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Sunday, April 27, 2008 12:00 AM

Why Jeremiah Wright is so wrong

I applaud Bill Moyers for being fair to Obama's pastor, but their PBS hour won't chase questions about his grim view of America. Plus: More Wright tapes emerge.

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Sunday, April 27, 2008 06:31 PM

Wright != Obama

Wright is not Obama. It does nobody any good to continue perpetuating a linkage of the two that has become tantamount to a singular identity.

We get it. The Republicans (and the media they control) are defining Obama as an America-hating radical, whether a Muslim, a black nationalist, or a throw-back weatherman/black panther type.

That is not who he is any more than Hillary is any of the labels assigned to her. Or Kerry. Or Gore. ...and McCain isn't who they say he is either.

Sunday, April 27, 2008 06:33 PM

Don't Dense The Wright Away

I'm not convinced that:

Rev Wright is so wrong.

Not convinced:

That Reagan and Clinton were great Presidents.

Unconvinced: That John McCain has even a twig of reliable rectitude in his elephant's trunk.

I struggled to mush through Joan Walsh' repetitive judgment assumptions, and found them unconvincing too.

I think the depth and horror of what's been U.S. Governmentally wrong or allowed and mostly untold for @ 50 years is so shocking that a combined majority of Americans are either unaware or in denial of it.

Why, exactly, do we have 16 different 'Intelligence Agencies'?

Since the veil closed again after Viet Nam, the secrets and savagery cloaked up, till recently.

When did our nation become morally superior to all others?

How well can you preach Democracy overseas if you have dismantled it at home?

What legislation did we enact that orders us to dictate a style of government to other nations?

We shouldn't be fools enough to think that the real power structure could possibly prefer losing to Obama.

They're not rooting for Clinton because they hate her and know they can beat her. She's the lesser threat to their rule of unlaw.

And, isn't it funny, the Clintons feel the same way: McCain is the lesser threat to their style of cackling corruption.

I like Salon fine since i happened upon it this season. The topics are hot alot. Some response letters are truly informative and inspiring.

I don't know who's who or how it all works yet, and may never learn nor care why bylines are bestowed on some contributors.

But i don't think Joan Walsh gets Rev Wright right at all.

The greatly seperated psyches of the races are such that the curious mayn't have an inkling of what's in other peoples' minds and hearts.

We should have enough faith in each other to find out.

I'll confess i took @ 30 years off from paying much attention to pols because it made me too mad. I just on and off moaned/seethed every 4 years in early November.

I call now to all of good will to bring forth your skill and join in this chance.

P.S. Why would you fight in a 'War' for 5 years without having any opposing Army left to challenge you? Bush1 kicked them home from Kuwait. Kurds donated the hiding General to Bush2.

It wasn't Normandy and Iwo Jima.

Truce it back to the United Nations ASAP.

Sunday, April 27, 2008 06:33 PM

McCain bashing Obama again with Wright issue

Maybe Obama should give another pretty speech. Pretty speeches make bad people go away, takes away all their evil powers.

Sunday, April 27, 2008 06:40 PM

@AKA Smith

I like you and your letters, but don't always agree. You wrote:

"The notion that foreign policy is more important than domestic policy is not a legitimate progressive position. The traditional progressive tradition is to redistribute wealth in such a way as to help the poorest in this country."

You make many good points, but in the Bush adminstration the foreign policy of war-making directly affected our ability to provide civil services (Katrina).

In one more fine irony, there are U.S. soldiers (who are most definitely working class) having to deal with home forclosures from Iraq. The war and lack of government oversight combine to hurt the economy as a whole, especially the troops... (many of whom have serious mental health issues and inadequate benefits).

Our foreign policy of fighting terror and our domestic policy of pushing back the rights of U.S. citizens are related, too.

Your overall point makes sense to me, but I think these issues are often pretty tough to untangle.

Sunday, April 27, 2008 06:43 PM

I Saw Moyer's Interview Differently

Dear Joan:

Rev Wright was saying that a government that has many sins cannot behave as if it is an innocent. Our government's lack of humility and sense of revenge after 9/11 was extreme in light of the many innocents that it has killed to achieve its goals. He compared our hubris to Egyptian and Roman governments described in the Bible. No politician would ever say these things, but Wright is a Christian first and an American second; to him, killing is never defensible. We may disagree, and that's OK; he has every right to speak his conscience as a Christian and biblical scholar. Democrats needs to stand up and support this man's right to his opinion, and Obama's right to listen to all viewpoints, no matter how extreme. Nobody on the right has been held so accountable for all the crazy things their pastors say.

Sunday, April 27, 2008 06:44 PM

Black House

Does not Wright wants Obama to rename the White House.

Some people are really talking and drawing parallels with S Africa and Zimbabwe - that is unfortunate. Black Governments may not be able to control the law and order in these two countries after the regime changed but that has nothing to do with race.

Sunday, April 27, 2008 06:50 PM

burlydee really nailed it

All people have friends / pastors / acquaintances / coworkers who have weird ideas. And it sounds like Wright has indeed ignored, or partially ignored, the possibility of redemption in this country, as Obama put it. But it was Obama himself who most clearly enunciated the problem with Wrights' world view.

Obama hasn't distanced himself from the man, but has indeed distanced himself from his positions on America. I can't understand how Joan can even pretend to believe that Obama himself believes what Wright believes.

And this is why I'm so angered by so many of Clinton's supporters -- they *know* perfectly well that Wrights' positions have nothing to do with Obama's, but they keep asking him to explain them. Why the hell should he have to explain the positions of any friend of his who has the same color skin as he has? I don't have to explain the positions of every Jew, or white man who I know. I have Republican coworkers, should I leave my job because of it?

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